Turkish invasion of NE Syria

**~~Epirus DNA~~** · 10-19-2019, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Toppo900

It's more based on territorial expansionism than religious one. I mean, Turkey had been meddling with Syria and Iraq since at least back in the 80's due to water resources from the Euphrates river. I know that Erdogan gives this impression to the world that he's on the side of the Palestinians and all that, but behind the curtains he's not, and really, I wouldn't be surprised if the Americans got more closer to Turkey to use the nation against Iran for Israel and Saudi Arabia's interests in the middle east. If that's the case then the Kurds should join forces with Assad, Hezbullah and Iran.

I think you're right-- but he needs the Religious factor to brainwash the common people. Territorial Expansionism goes Hand-in-Hand with Religion-- especially in the Islamic World.

**~~Kamal900~~** · 10-19-2019, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Epirus DNA

I think you're right-- but he needs the Religious factor to brainwash the common people. Territorial Expansionism goes Hand-in-Hand with Religion-- especially in the Islamic World.

Obviously, Erdogan used religion as a cover up to get the masses from the Islamic world to support him and so on. I know many Levantine Arabs that can see through his bullshit.

**Yamnaya** · 10-19-2019, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Toppo900

To help him fight the YPG which is nothing more than a cover up for Turkey to take more land and water resources from both Syria and Iraq. It could be another strategy being employed by the US government for Turkey to take more control of Syrian territory for them to use against Iran for Saudi and Israeli interests against the hegemony of Iran and Hezbullah since they found the Kurds to have been outlived their usefulness.

So the answer, as always, is simply America, right?

**~~Kamal900~~** · 10-19-2019, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Yamnaya

So the answer, as always, is simply America, right?

Pretty much. I mean, let's be honest here, the US is a nation that tends to back stab it's proxy armies when they had outlived their usefulness and switching sides more often than most just to have their interests being employed in the region.

**Babak** · 10-19-2019, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Toppo900

Pretty much. I mean, let's be honest here, the US is a nation that tends to back stab it's proxy armies when they had outlived their usefulness and switching sides more often than most just to have their interests being employed in the region.

Its the process of spreading democracy. Nothing to worry about.

**~~Turxanthus~~** · 10-19-2019, 09:25 PM

Turkey's military undertaking in NE Syria has also cleared up the doubts as regards to the future orientation which the country ought to take. You just need to look at who reacted positively and negatively.
Islamism, Ottoman Muslimness lost. As the Arab League officially condemned Turkey (except from Qatar and Morocco). Even Palestine condemned Turkey, funnily.
The European Union, especially those Catholic countries like France and Italy also condemned Turkey. The European Union and The Arabs might be avoided by Turks.

The Turkic Council, including observing members such as Turkmenistan and Hungary, declared full support to Turkey. Thus, this shows who the friends of the Turks are. A new world is being built. The European supremacism that marked the last 200 years is crumbling. The Turkic world, with its endless natural resources (oil, gas, minerals) is the only orientation for Turkey. 10 years ago what we are typing here would sound utopic, but now it sounds so real.

It is also worth noting that unlike the traditionally anti-Turkic Catholic France, the Protestant Norway and UK had a more neutral approach. Thus, it shows that the Lutheran Anglo-Nordic block shall seek for close ties with Turks. We must also not forget de facto support from Orthodox Bulgaria and Catalan-hit Spain.

**~~Petros Houhoulis~~** · 10-19-2019, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Turxanthus

Turkey's military undertaking in NE Syria has also cleared up the doubts as regards to the future orientation which the country ought to take. You just need to look at who reacted positively and negatively.
Islamism, Ottoman Muslimness lost. As the Arab League officially condemned Turkey (except from Qatar and Morocco). Even Palestine condemned Turkey, funnily.
The European Union, especially those Catholic countries like France and Italy also condemned Turkey. The European Union and The Arabs might be avoided by Turks.

The Turkic Council, including observing members such as Turkmenistan and Hungary, declared full support to Turkey. Thus, this shows who the friends of the Turks are. A new world is being built. The European supremacism that marked the last 200 years is crumbling. The Turkic world, with its endless natural resources (oil, gas, minerals) is the only orientation for Turkey. 10 years ago what we are typing here would sound utopic, but now it sounds so real.

Maybe you should rename it "the suckers of Russian cock Council", because all of it's members shall keep sucking Russian cock 'till the end of time. Nowadays even Turkey is sucking Russian cock, and Hungary ain't that far either, but Orban shall lose power sooner or later, and they'll wake up.

It is also worth noting that unlike the traditionally anti-Turkic Catholic France, the Protestant Norway and UK had a more neutral approach.

The UK is building a military airplane with Turkey. Norway did actually give you the boot.

Thus, it shows that the Lutheran Anglo-Nordic block shall seek for close ties with Turks. We must also not forget de facto support from Orthodox Bulgaria and Catalan-hit Spain.

There is no de-facto support from Bulgaria, they are simply worried about the refugees, and Spain is heavily exposed to investments in Turkey, the Catalonian debacle plays no role whatsoever...

Capiche, Kanine?