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Attól hogy átvesz valaki cigány szlenget meg cigány zenét hallgat, az még jelenti azt hogy cigánynak gondolja magát.
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Az ilyenek kinövik ezt mert rájönnek hogy ciki, az a hülye amelyik meg cigány akar lenni annak meg gratulálni tudok.. Sokszor akik cigányok közt nőnek fel azok lesznek ilyenek,hogy illeszkedjenek, de ahogy kikerülnek a közegből már nem tartja őket semmi hozzá.Originally Posted by Blondie
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Nem hiszem, hogy komolyan cigánynak gondolná magát Dopeman a mai napig, szerintem csak brahiból mondta. Gyurcsány is anno rasszista ellenes tüntetésen azt a transzparenst lobogtatta hogy 'cigány vagyok'. Nem kell ezeket a dolgokat véresen komolyan venni meg kiragadno a kontextusból. Ha feltételezzük hogy Dopeman komolyan cigányként határozza meg magát, akkor is ő csak egyetlen ember.
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That's bullshit revisionist history.
Gypsies were not kept as slaves to be bred for work. The historic reality is that the value of Gypsies labor was less than that of Balkanites serfs, because Balkanites were farmers and the feudal system was based on farming.
Calling Gypsies slaves is also inaccurate - they were "robi" not "sclavi". "Robia" was the lowest level of Medieval servitude but still not slavery. Robii like serfs could only be sold in communes, usually together with land or other types of estates (except for late in the Phanariote period when serfdom was abolished and in exchange the protections for gypsies were also eliminated). This type of serfdom came directly from the Byzantines, and so did the Gypsies who arrived early in Romanian principalities. This system was present everywhere in the Balkans until most Balkan states fell to the Ottomans. In the Ottoman empire Gypsies were liberated if they converted to Islam, but not all of them did. Suleiman the Magnificent moved the Gypsies from Anatolia to Rumelia (Eastern Balkans) - here's another Erdogan. Gypsies still fled the Ottoman empire to the Romanian principalities despite the better status they had on paper in the empire.
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Blacks are not Caucasians, Gypsies are. You cannot compare a half-Black with a half-Gypsy. A Gypsy/European mix is very much similar to a West Asian, both phenotypically and autosomally. West Asians have significant South Asian, Iranians have something like 10% South Asian AFAIK.
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There would be no such problem, if these people would be counted by families, i.e. family origin. Then would be known the exact number of people of gypsy or szekler provenance, and none wannabe could pass, and there would be no problem whatsoever, who is, and who is not a Gypsy. So, absorbing patrimeasurment is very practical, sufficient and usefull.
Another solution, would be a consideration of gypsyness as a life style, and then counting people who live like gypsies.
But it would be very unsufficient, not showing the real ethnic and historical background.
Third solution would be counting of racial make-up, but similarly as above, it would have flaws, as Gypsies who do not look like wasserdravidains would be left out.
The same result would have autosomal treatment.
And lingustic manner would be a total compromitation, as few speak gypsy or talk in gypsyzied slang.
Selfidentification from obvious reasons is the worst kind of counting.
Almost equally bad would be taking unto account people, who accoring to those who make a counting, are consider to be Gypsies.
If I would be counting them, then I would go obviously by the first mentioned way. It would be the most accurate and most objective as possible way of counting, giving the exact number of people of gypsy provenance. Provenance doesn't mean, that they have to speak, act, live or look like gypsy, but is showing their direct provenance (and I guess that a huge majority of them, probably close to 90%, would be still representing gypsy look and lifestyle).
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Igen sajnos, de arra akartam rámutatni hogy létezik ez a jelenég.
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Ebben igazad van.
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Gyurcsány egy politikus, felesleges behozni Dopeman mellé aki a cigány gettóból tört fel és ezt mutatta is a zenéivel meg a szövegeivel. Ez a jelenség létezik, ha nem akarsz róla tudomást venni a te dolgod.
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What do you mean they integrated me and not me them? I believe there is no average gypsy IQ, because they differ so much even genetically, in different countries, sub-groups. social class, education background etc. And Im sure education helps, because I know that first hand. My uncles stepson finished nursing college, he works as nurse in serbia, and has his own appartment now. My first cousin also finished nursing school and is now looking for a job. They have many non-gypsy friends, if you go to high school or college you also will not be only in segregated gypsy community, but have probably non-gypsy friends as well and see how they live and do
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