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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    As the most or least vehemently non-English speaking country?
    uat du iu zinq?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    uat du iu zinq?
    Well, outside of Madrid, Barcelona and some coastal resorts, I don't think English is especially widespread in Spain at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Well, outside of Madrid, Barcelona and some coastal resorts, I don't think English is especially widespread in Spain at all.
    Not even in these places. Only British tourists, and perhaps another tourists for obvious reasons, dominate English.

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    This is the "official" ranking of the world's most proficient English speakers: https://www.ef.co.uk/epi/#

    Although France is "moderate" in conversational English proficiency it is definitely the most vehemently anti English-speaking place, mostly because they're extremely protective of their own language, which in and of itself is not a bad thing. French used to be the Lingua Franca, a lot of people can't stand that English took it's place. If you think I'm exaggerating then look at how quickly some French politicians jumped into the issue of the official languages of the EU following the Brexit vote, eagerly anticipating its removal, despite English already being the majority 2nd language in the EU AND the fact that the ROI still uses it.

    Personal anecdote here; France is the only place I've been to where people were offended that I butchered their language trying to speak it (I'm sorry, I tried) and also offended when I tried to speak English to them after they revealed that they DID speak English. LMAO, this was mostly Parisians though, and once in Marseilles. But if French was my native language, I guess I would also fight fiercely to preserve and spread it.

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    Also I forgot to mention, Brazilians are extremely "pro-english", having a decent grasp of the language in Brazil is like a "social jump", it's extremely obnoxious and is becoming detrimental to Portuguese, which we already butcher on a daily basis anyway. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by that guy View Post
    Also I forgot to mention, Brazilians are extremely "pro-english", having a decent grasp of the language in Brazil is like a "social jump",
    But the point is that not many people do. Even among the middle-classes in Brazil English is not that widespread (nor is Spanish, for that matter, despite its closeness to Portuguese and it being the language of most of Brazil's neighbours.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    But the point is that not many people do. Even among the middle-classes in Brazil English is not that widespread (nor is Spanish, for that matter, despite its closeness to Portuguese and it being the language of most of Brazil's neighbours.)
    Yep, we are generally not that great with languages, even our own. Brazil ranks 41st worldwide according to those rankings I posted, that's measuring proficiency though, socially speaking it's very welcome, we embrace it, there's very few social resistance against English, unlike France. The biggest factor that contributes to low English conversational skill in Brazil is low quality training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by that guy View Post
    Yep, we are generally not that great with languages, even our own. Brazil ranks 41st worldwide according to those rankings I posted, that's measuring proficiency though, socially speaking it's very welcome, we embrace it, there's very few social resistance against English, unlike France. The biggest factor that contributes to low English conversational skill in Brazil is low quality training.
    Brazil is big, insular, (relatively) powerful and has a single unifying language, so it is just as disincentivised to learn foreign languages en masse as a nation as other big monolingual countries like the USA, Mexico and China (yes I know that there are actually many languages in China, but Mandarin ultimately acts as a unifier).

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    Quote Originally Posted by that guy View Post
    This is the "official" ranking of the world's most proficient English speakers: https://www.ef.co.uk/epi/#
    I thought that Mexicans had a better level of English.

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