The Vlachs in Bosnia

[Insuperable]

It doesn't matter what they once were. What matters is what it became. Byzantines settled Serbian and Croatian warrior families there in exchange for our military service against the Avars. As you know, the Herzegovinians don't seem to plot all that differently compared to Croats from Zagreb, I would say the major difference is more "western" plotting for them.

There are records of Slavs and the remaining Roman (I am guessing latin-speaking Illyrians) population living separately in parts of Dalmatia and they started mixing later, 10th century onwards. That is why I put smiley there, as if this Roman population was similar to Belarussians judging by their claims. Zagorci are still way northern plotting, no Croat can compare with them.

Another thing to be mentioned is that areas where Vlachs settled are quiet dark. However what it is interesting is that Hercegovinians as a whole are probably the tallest people in europe, but they are dark, in general Dinaro-med with CM. On the other hand the vlachs in southern albania or other regions such as Myzeqe are exotic too, but they are short and very alpinoid influenced

Herzegovinians Croats and those from SW Bosnia are surely the darkest Croats along with Dalmatian population from the hinterland. While this regions produce the swarthiest people you can find at the same time you can find some of the lightest compared to the entire Croatia which I always found interesting since noticing this things.

Herzegovinians are dark mostly to their lifestyle and climate. The air there is very dry, the sun always shines, and people are mostly outdoors. However if you look at things like "Blue eyes" I don't think there is a difference to other areas of Serbia, I maybe wrong. They are also the tallest of the Balkans I met, but this is mountain life they have adapted to.

Herzegovina is also a big hole. When driving from Herzegovina towards Bosnia you are constantly climbing and it gets colder and colder by a minute. I know when people go to Bosnia in the middle of June to pick up goods and merchandise in Bosnian (central) areas they go there in flip-flops and shorts and people there wearing jackets think they are crazy.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Zagorci are still way northern plotting, no Croat can compare with them.

Red, Herzegovinian Croat, Blue Croat from village on Slovene border.

[Insuperable]

^That is just one guy from your thread. I posted some more from Herzegovina (andaybe some with partial ancestry. can't recall). I posted 4 people from Zagorje who are very homogeneous while they are more diverse.

[Stefan_Dusan]

^That is just one guy from your thread. I posted some more from Herzegovina (andaybe some with partial ancestry. can't recall). I posted 4 people from Zagorje who are very homogeneous while they are more diverse.

No he is Krunislav, we both have him. The one with partial ancestry (German) plots west to him, like me, but north of me. But anyways Herzegovinians are more variable but I still find this is approximately where Croat Herzegovinians plot.

[Insuperable]

No he is Krunislav, we both have him.

And he is the one I am having in mind. I mean the one I posted in your thread. The same guy all over again.

The one with partial ancestry (German) plots west to him, like me, but north of me.

Which one is that? I guess that is not the one from Split

But anyways Herzegovinians are more variable but I still find this is approximately where Croat Herzegovinians plot.

Not at all. It is impossible. As I have said I posted some others.

[Stefan_Dusan]

And he is the one I am having in mind. I mean the one I posted in your thread. The same guy all over again.



Which one is that? I guess that is not the one from Split



Not at all. It is impossible. As I have said I posted some others.

Yes, the one from Split and all the ones you posted looked very northern shifted in this area.

[kuqezi]

Another thing to be mentioned is that areas where Vlachs settled are quiet dark. However what it is interesting is that Hercegovinians as a whole are probably the tallest people in europe, but they are dark, in general Dinaro-med with CM. On the other hand the vlachs in southern albania or other regions such as Myzeqe are exotic too, but they are short and very alpinoid influenced

Vlach means romanized native so the hercegovinian vlachs are unrelated to Epirus vlachs etc. The fact that they we're romanized is why the non Hercegovina vlachs look more exotic because they were open to foreign influences. Hercegovinian vlachs were isolated romanized Illyrians. I believe the I2a2 is a one of the native Illyrian markers. The original serbocroats were from north around Czechoslovakia and southern Poland and not east around Moldova where the are other I2a2 are present. Anyways the I2 in any form is non Slavic.

[Papastratosels26]

Didn't know that there were Vlachs in Bosnia.

[Ford]

Noel Malcolm is an anti-Serbian propagandist, just like most Englishmen.

[Ljubic]

Arent all south slavs basically slavicized native balkan inhabitants? Why are vlachs so thoroughly discussed on this forum even though most of us have some vlach ancestry anyway?