Eurasian Hunter Gatherers Map

**Zroota** · 10-23-2019, 07:39 AM

Thoughts?

**Zroota** · 10-23-2019, 07:44 AM

Btw, what's the difference between Eastern Hunter Gatherers and Caucasian Hunter Gatherers? Is the latter a subgroup of EHG?

**~~Sche~~** · 10-23-2019, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by Shelati

Btw, what's the difference between Eastern Hunter Gatherers and Caucasian Hunter Gatherers? Is the latter a subgroup of EHG?

**~~Evrim~~** · 10-23-2019, 07:54 AM

Iranian farmers were ancestors of native Elamites?

**vbnetkhio** · 10-23-2019, 07:59 AM

[QUOTE=Shelati;6290026]Thoughts?

weren't SHGs i2? and Anatolian farmers G2a and E-v13
CHGs were j2.

Yamnaya was r1b-z2103, and Bell Beaker and Afanasievo were r1b-L51

**Zroota** · 10-23-2019, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by Sche

Thanks for the diagram.

I got Armenian Chacolith on Gedmath. What the heck is that? It's not related to CHG, right (diagram shows they show a common root but they don't come from each other)?

**vbnetkhio** · 10-23-2019, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Shelati

Btw, what's the difference between Eastern Hunter Gatherers and Caucasian Hunter Gatherers? Is the latter a subgroup of EHG?

EHG were 70% r1a ANE immigrants from Siberia and 30% something local from Eastern Europe, which was similar to WHG.

CHG were j2, they pretty much originated from the first humans which settled in the Caucasus and didn't mix with anybody, until 13 000 years ago when they started mixing with ANE

**Zroota** · 10-23-2019, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

EHG were 70% r1a ANE immigrants from Siberia and 30% something local from Eastern Europe, which was similar to WHG.

CHG were j2, they pretty much originated from the first humans which settled in the Caucasus and didn't mix with anybody, until 13 000 years ago when they started mixing with ANE

Thanks.

What exactly is Armenian Chalcolith? It's EHG, right? And they have nothing to do with CHGs?

Excuse the questions if they seem 'dumb' cos I am new to this.

**21993** · 10-23-2019, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Shelati

Btw, what's the difference between Eastern Hunter Gatherers and Caucasian Hunter Gatherers? Is the latter a subgroup of EHG?

AFAIK, both are predominantly ANE but EHG have WHG tendencies and CHG have Natufian tendencies.

**vbnetkhio** · 10-23-2019, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Shelati

Thanks.

What exactly is Armenian Chalcolith? It's EHG, right? And they have nothing to do with CHGs?

Excuse the questions if they seem 'dumb' cos I am new to this.

on that graph they seem to be a mix of EHG, Iran_N, and Anatolia_N. and Iran_N was closely related to CHG i believe.