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    Quote Originally Posted by user_ View Post
    Yeah, you do not border Armenia, but you border Azerbaijan, and also Dagestan was pretty much influenced by Persian culture.

    And I know some can say that Georgian culture differs so much because we have more Russian influences for last 200 years, but in fact Georgian polyphony and yodeling is much older than Russians as a nation.

    The whole caucases was heavily influenced by persian culture in fact. I love how some of you guys try so hard to distance yourselves from Near easterners when in reality you have a lot more in common with them compared to anybody else. Azerbaijanis being extremely nationalist, have a very hard time understanding this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    The whole caucases was heavily influenced by persian culture in fact. I love how some of you guys try so hard to distance yourselves from Near easterners when in reality you have a lot more in common with them compared to anybody else. Azerbaijanis being extremely nationalist, have a very hard time understanding this

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    Can you tell me how West of the Georgia was influenced by Persian culture? I'm not against Persian culture, but why should i say that we are Persian influenced if we are not?

    Like Imereli from West Georgia has absolutely different lifestyle or music than Dagestan, let alone Persia.
    What is Persian here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    The whole caucases was heavily influenced by persian culture in fact. I love how some of you guys try so hard to distance yourselves from Near easterners when in reality you have a lot more in common with them compared to anybody else. Azerbaijanis being extremely nationalist, have a very hard time understanding this

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    Caucasian peoples are like Basques
    They want to be "unique" after they were believed their languages had no relatives outside the Caucasus


    Azerbaijanians dont want to be influenced by Persians but pure Turkics

    Whats about so called aboriginal Caucasians they want to be unique

    Here are real battles

    Azerbaijanians are not Caucasians
    They are lated migrated Turks
    Armenians - Indo-European migrants
    Karachay-Balkars Crimean Tatars (Turkic languages)
    Ossetians - Persian (Os language belongs to Iranian languages)

    Some Nazi from the s.c. North Caucasian language family sometimes mostly hated Kartvelians (especially Abkhazians and Circassians)

    They want to most unique and most aboriginal

    They are comparee with Indo-European and Turkic "colonists" but dont know what to do with Kartvelians peoples

    So they like to fairy-taling that Kartvelians are not Cauvasian but Kurds (Kart- veli vs Kurd), they are Semitic (one of the in ancient times denied hypothesis)

    Shortly its very funny "North-Caucasian" (aka Abkhazo-Adyghean + Nakho-Dagestian Nazis) vs KC battling.

    Mostly Nakhians and Dagestanians shit on AA
    They have no problems with KC and their relativness with AA is not prove but AA need ND in fighting with KC and like flattering with ND trying to belief them they are 100% Caucasians and KC are fuckin migrants that culturally are Asians (they dont lile Kartvelians to be with Europe)

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    Lazuri song about mother language "Shurimshine nana"

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    the sound of the Kart language


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    Kart language is record-holder in consonant clusters

    "At the other end of the scale, the Kartvelian languages of Georgia are drastically more permissive of consonant clustering. Clusters in Georgian of four, five or six consonants are not unusual—for instance, /brtʼqʼɛli/ (flat), /mt͡sʼvrtnɛli/ (trainer) and /prt͡skvna/ (peeling)—and if grammatical affixes are used, it allows an eight-consonant cluster: /ɡvbrdɣvnis/ (he's plucking us). Consonants cannot appear as syllable nuclei in Georgian, so this syllable is analysed as CCCCCCCCVC."

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    Svan language to me distantly sounds like Turkic and Mongolic. But Georgian sounds foreign.



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    I noticed that Mongolian and Native American languages have weird sound L which sounds like TL ( lateral fricative sound). Such sound is found in Icelandic, Welsh and also Caucasus languages like Circassian. Northern Caucasus languages also have guttural fricative K sound which is common in Turkic, Siberian and Native American languages.

    Fricative TL is very clear in Mongolian language

    In Circassian this lateral sounds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filelhazh.ogg

    Tsez ( Northern Caucasus language) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lhi.ogg



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    Quote Originally Posted by LezginMBD View Post
    Your the idiot who refuses to accept historical reality and this:


    It appears your Kartvelians are closer to Armenians and Middle Eastern Jews.
    Their closest genetic relatives are Abkhaz, Armenians, South Ossetians and Caucasus jew(specifically Georgian Jews). They aren't close to middle eastern Jews at all. Hell, Armenians aren't even that close to middle eastern Jews so how would Georgians be?

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    North Caucasian family (Abkhazo-Adyghean & Nakh–Daghestanian)


    Abkhazo-Adyghean group (North Pontic)


    Adyghe language





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    Nakh–Daghestanian group (North Caspic)



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