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    Quote Originally Posted by idioteque View Post
    That boggled my mind.
    Try to imagine the histerical reaction of the atheistic fans of Hawking.. Now they must rely on Dawkins' ravings..

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    Quote Originally Posted by B01AB20 View Post
    Anti-clerical attitudes are somewhat common in left parties, and pro-clerical attitudes in right-wing parties are passive and silent, almost never explicit.
    Or at least that's my impression.

    Here our new president Sanchez.



    You ( spanish ) are denying your roots...Why ?


    Here the previous president Rajoy.


    Can you see the difference?

    No crucifix and no Bible for Pedro Sanchez (socialist), only the spanish Constitution.
    You ( spanish ) are denying your roots...Why ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by idioteque View Post
    That boggled my mind.
    Yeah... it was an insult to Christians and Christianity to give Hawking a Christian funeral. These atheists can't have it both ways...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Profileid View Post
    The figure of people calling themselves Christian seems to be about 70%,same as the US. However, when you take those numbers apart, less actually believe in doctrine than here.
    That is because the true doctrine of Christianity has been suppressed by the Catholic church : Gnostic manichean French Catharism, hence, it is only known to an elite few like myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEUTORIGOS View Post
    That is because the true doctrine of Christianity has been suppressed by the Catholic church : Gnostic manichean French Catharism, hence, it is only known to an elite few like myself.
    i don't believe anymore but if we all could be christian first of all in the first place,looking for our own spirituality in a personal way, i don't even know if i could have distanced myself from (this kind of) religion.
    for all i know i would be happy if the(not paying taxes while lucrating) vatican could cease to exist Tomorrow.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TEUTORIGOS View Post
    That is because the true doctrine of Christianity has been suppressed by the Catholic church : Gnostic manichean French Catharism, hence, it is only known to an elite few like myself.
    Gnosticism is from the devil, clearly. The early Christians knew it. It's occultic also.
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    You ( spanish ) are denying your Christian roots...Why ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by B01AB20
    Anti-clerical attitudes are somewhat common in left parties, and pro-clerical attitudes in right-wing parties are passive and silent, almost never explicit.
    Or at least that's my impression...

    Bonjour comment allez vous ? Je suis enseignant de Jésus. Je suis la lignée du Christ des Mérovingiens.

    There is no way if Jesus was alive today he would be a Captialist he would be more Socialist or Communist but probably not a full blown communist because communists are atheists etc....

    Americans have a false corrupted form of Christianity.

    The American idea of Jesus : blonde haired Anglo-Saxon Cadillac car driving super Jesus wants you to be rich !



    True Christianity :

    I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Matthew 19:23-26



    In the fifth century Manichaeism was one of the most widespread religions in the world.

    The reigion was founded by a Persian nobleman called Mani (210-276 AD). He lived in Babylon, which at the time was a province of the Sassanid Persia. Mani taught that two natures existed from the beginning: light and darkness. The realm of light lived in peace, while the realm of darkness was in constant conflict with itself. The universe we know is the result of an attack by the realm of darkness on the realm of light. In other words Manichaeism is a Dualist religion.

    A corollary of Mani's teaching is that there is no omnipotent good power, and therefore no problem in explaining how an omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenificent god could have allowed evil to enter his creation - a major unresolved philosophical problem for educated Jews, Christians and Moslems to this day.

    Human beings provided the main battleground for the two opposing powers: the good part is the soul (which is composed of immaterial light) and the bad part is the body (composed of dark material). The soul defines the person and is incorruptible, but in human beings it is under the domination of a foreign power. Humans are said to be able to be saved from this power (the power of matter) if they come to know who they are and identify themselves with their soul. This is an anti-materialist philosophy not compatible will American materialism capitalistic society.

    One of the tenets of Manichaeism was that it presented the complete version of teachings revealed only partially by teachers such as Zoroaster, Hermes, Plato, Buddha, and Jesus. Mani was also influenced by Mandaeanism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Gnosticism is from the devil, clearly. The early Christians knew it. It's occultic also.
    Nope , American Christianity is from the devil : materialistic cadillac driving Jesus who wants you to be rich. French Catharism is the only true Christian way but they were exterminated by the satanic Catholic church.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEUTORIGOS View Post
    Nope , American Christianity is from the devil : materialistic cadillac driving Jesus who wants you to be rich. French Catharism is the only true Christian way but they were exterminated by the satanic Catholic church.
    This has nothing to do with "American Christianity" (which is problematic, since there is not a single type of Christianity in America).

    Gnosticism is of the devil, even the early Christians knew it and destroyed gnostic works and warned other Christians about it. It is a false teaching from Satan to pervert the gospel of Jesus Christ. Verified.
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