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Thread: Poles closer to Latvians and Estonians or to Slovenians ?

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    Latvians and Estonians

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    Latvians/Estonians

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    so ... "southern Balts" basically

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nato View Post
    Poland both Central European and Baltic country.
    Huge Kingdom of Poland stretching all the way from the Adriatic Sea to the Gulf of Finland is my dream.

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    this is my k36 similarity map. According to this I am equally similar to Ukrainians/Poles/Russians/Belarusians some parts of Estonia and Latvia, Sorbs and to a slightly lesser extent to Czechs and Slovaks. AncestryDNA on the other hand claims that I am from Lithuania

    lm genetics:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumansky View Post
    To be honest with you Slovenes and some Balts aren't that much different genetically.
    That's not true. I guess some Poles can be very Baltic while others not. Interesting how half Polish half Slovenian user here on TA cluster with Austrians, or like full-fledged Slovene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemgrant View Post
    this is my k36 similarity map. According to this I am equally similar to Ukrainians/Poles/Russians/Belarusians some parts of Estonia and Latvia, Sorbs and to a slightly lesser extent to Czechs and Slovaks. AncestryDNA on the other hand claims that I am from Lithuania
    Are you Polish ?

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    Culturally and historically, Latvians and Estonians. Genetically and linguistically, Slovenes.

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    Genetically I am closer to Latvians and Estonians but the difference is not huge

    At least according to some analysis:

    Balt 78,34 ---// Samples:23
    Poleshtchuk 77,95 ---// Samples:8
    Ukrainian-East 73,41 ---// Samples:17
    Russian-Meshtchora 72 ---// Samples:6
    Ukrainian-Poltava 70,27 ---// Samples:24
    Polish 68,48 ---// Samples:25
    Belarusian 67,83 ---// Samples:30
    Ukrainian-West 67,07 ---// Samples:22
    Estonian 66,91 ---// Samples:27
    Russian-Center 65,27 ---// Samples:19
    Karelian 64,96 ---// Samples:19
    Hungarian 64,69 ---// Samples:22
    Slovak 64,1 ---// Samples:15
    Russian-Vyatka-Arsk 63,58 ---// Samples:21
    Russian-HGDP 63,57 ---// Samples:25
    Slovenian 63,2 ---// Samples:15

    And according to DNA Tribes:

    Rank Population Map Area
    1 Lithuania Europe
    2 Poland Europe
    3 Russia Voronezh Europe
    4 Russia General Europe
    5 Russia Oryol Europe
    6 Latvia Europe
    7 Mordvin Europe
    8 Estonia Europe
    9 Russia Tver Europe
    10 Russia Smolensk Europe
    11 Russia Kursk Europe
    12 Ukraine General Europe
    13 Slovakia Europe
    14 Russia Vologda Europe
    15 Belarus Europe
    16 Ukraine Western Europe
    17 Russia Kostroma Europe
    18 Moldavia Europe
    19 Czech Europe
    20 Russia Pinega Europe
    21 Hungary Europe
    22 Lapland Europe
    23 Slovenia Europe

    It is hard to say about Poles in general though.

    Speaking about other categories than just genetics:

    Language - Poles are closer to Slovenians as Slavic speakers
    History - In the past some areas of modern Latvia belonged to Poland, no such close relations with Slovenia
    Phenotype - Probably related to genetics. Maybe Poles are closer to Latvians and Estonians but very slightly.
    Last edited by michal3141; 02-10-2019 at 07:43 PM.

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