With whom will Serbs side? Russian Orthodoxes or Ecumenal Patriarchate Orthodoxes?

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Excerpts from The Communique of the Holy Assembly of Bishops

22 May, 2019

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The Communique of the Holy Assembly of Bishops of the Serbian Orthodox Church from their regular meeting held at Zica Monastery and in Belgrade, May 9-18, 2019


The biggest problem of the Orthodox Church today is the Church schism in Ukraine and the failed attempt by the Patriarchate of Constantinople in resolving the problem "knee jerk", on its own initiative, without a dialogue with the canonical Church in Ukraine and with the Russian Orthodox Church as a whole and without pan-Slavic counseling. In this regard, the Assembly’s present position remains: our Church does not recognize the newly established false-church structure in Ukraine, led by the citizens of Denysenko and Dumenko, and is only and exclusively in liturgical and canonical communion with the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church, led by His Beatitude Metropolitan Onufry, and with all the other canonical Orthodox Churches.



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The Serbian Church re-affirms its position on church situation in Ukraine

31 May, 2019

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His Holiness Irenaeus, Patriarch of Serbia, has familiarized His Holiness Kirill, Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia, with the position taken by the Serbian Orthodox Church on the Ukrainian church problems.

Below is the full text of the official position formulated by the Bishops’ Council of the Serbian Orthodox Church at its session on May 14, 2019.

With regard to the disputed and vitally important topic of an abnormal church situation in Ukraine that has developed after the well-known decisions and unilateral interference of the Patriarchate of Constantinople, the Sacred Bishops’ Council of the Serbian Orthodox Church officially and unanimously informs and presents to the general public that the position of our Church on this problem remains unchanged as to its previous official conciliar and synodal decisions, statements and appeals. Accordingly, the Serbian Orthodox Church does not recognize the newly formed pseudo-ecclesiastical structure in Ukraine, headed by citizens Denisenko and Dumenko, but stands in the liturgical and canonical communion only and exceptionally with the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church headed by His Beatitude Metropolitan Onufriy. It implies that our Church is in communion with all the rest canonical Orthodox Churches.

We repeat once again that our Sacred Bishops’ Council makes another appeal to all to solve and resolve the church problems in Ukraine canonically, in fraternal dialogue with the Russian Orthodox Church on the whole and the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in particular after a conference on the pan-Orthodox level.

We send the text of our decision concurrently to the Patriarch of Constantinople and to Your Holiness and after them will immediately send it to all the rest Primates of local Orthodox Churches and, in an appropriate form, to the public both ecclesial and secular.

Your brother and concelebrant always faithful to Your Holiness in the love of Christ the Saviour.



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[Vožd]

Ukrainian and Montenegrin churches are very similar cases.

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Abba - Money, Money, Money

It’s only your fantasies until you provide evidences.

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It’s only your fantasies until you provide evidences.

http://www.spc.rs/eng/russian_orthod...conflict_syria


Similar case in Antioch




Money, Power.. Money. Power

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http://www.spc.rs/eng/russian_orthod...conflict_syria

"The Moscow Patriarchate’s Department for Church Charity and Social Service transferred 1,320,407 $ to the bank account of the Patriarchate of Antioch in the beginning of August 2013."

What does the Serbian church have to do with the Patriarchate of Antioch?

And the fact that the Russian Church helps Syria (which suffers from the war) with money does not seem unnatural to me.

The information you gave says nothing about bribing the Serbian church by the Russian church.

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"The Moscow Patriarchate’s Department for Church Charity and Social Service transferred 1,320,407 $ to the bank account of the Patriarchate of Antioch in the beginning of August 2013."

What does the Serbian church have to do with the Patriarchate of Antioch?

And the fact that the Russian Church helps Syria (which suffers from the war) with money does not seem unnatural to me.

The information you gave says nothing about bribing the Serbian church by the Russian church.

Russia’s tricolor flag appears intertwined with Serbia’s alongside highways, on billboards sponsored by Russia’s Gazprom energy company. E.U. funds paid for many of the roads, but the tiny blue-and-yellow European flag goes down as soon as construction is complete.

Russia has come to dominate Serbia’s oil and natural gas market — a fraction of the overall economy, but a key one for the country’s security. Serbia imports 75 percent of its natural gas, all of it from Russia. Since 2008, Moscow has controlled domestic production, too, after Serbia’s national energy company was sold to Gazprom for a bargain price. The profits help Russia’s broader influence efforts pay for themselves.

Russia also has a strong presence at church. Many Serbian Orthodox priests meet frequently with senior Russian political leaders. In their sermons, they play up the common religious heritage and thank the Kremlin for trying to thwart independence for Kosovo, which the Serbian church considers its ancestral home. The construction of an Orthodox church in a Russian style northwest of Belgrade attracted tens of thousands of dollars in donations after it was dubbed “Putin’s church.”



In Serbia, “the Russians are giving nothing and getting a lot in the deal,” said Bosko Jaksic, a foreign policy columnist at Politika, a Serbian daily. “Big politics can change in an instant. If you target the cells of people’s brains, it’s much more dangerous.”



Sasa Savic, a nationalist with a tattoo of an Orthodox church on his right forearm, leads the Serbian Night Wolves, a branch of a Russian motorcycle gang supported by the Kremlin. Savic said he has met Putin six times.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.wa...outputType=amp


I can post more if you want.

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Russia’s tricolor flag appears intertwined with Serbia’s alongside highways, on billboards sponsored by Russia’s Gazprom energy company. E.U. funds paid for many of the roads, but the tiny blue-and-yellow European flag goes down as soon as construction is complete.

Russia has come to dominate Serbia’s oil and natural gas market — a fraction of the overall economy, but a key one for the country’s security. Serbia imports 75 percent of its natural gas, all of it from Russia. Since 2008, Moscow has controlled domestic production, too, after Serbia’s national energy company was sold to Gazprom for a bargain price. The profits help Russia’s broader influence efforts pay for themselves.

Russia also has a strong presence at church. Many Serbian Orthodox priests meet frequently with senior Russian political leaders. In their sermons, they play up the common religious heritage and thank the Kremlin for trying to thwart independence for Kosovo, which the Serbian church considers its ancestral home. The construction of an Orthodox church in a Russian style northwest of Belgrade attracted tens of thousands of dollars in donations after it was dubbed “Putin’s church.”

In Serbia, “the Russians are giving nothing and getting a lot in the deal,” said Bosko Jaksic, a foreign policy columnist at Politika, a Serbian daily. “Big politics can change in an instant. If you target the cells of people’s brains, it’s much more dangerous.”

Sasa Savic, a nationalist with a tattoo of an Orthodox church on his right forearm, leads the Serbian Night Wolves, a branch of a Russian motorcycle gang supported by the Kremlin. Savic said he has met Putin six times.

Nothing in this information is proof that the Serbian church was bribed by the Russian Church.

I can post more if you want.

I want only one thing, to see evidences of your thesis that in the relations between the Serbian and Russian churches the main role is played by money.

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Nothing in this information is proof that the Serbian church was bribed by the Russian Church.







I want only one thing, to see evidences of your thesis that in the relations between the Serbian and Russian churches the main role is played by money.

Are you frustrated Kremlin bot?





Look better in the article..

Your frustration blinds you.

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Are you frustrated Kremlin bot?





Look better in the article..

Your frustration blinds you.

Man, there is no need for Russians to bribe us to support them. Majority of Serbs are hardcore russphiles.