Suspected Witches Burned Alive by Christians in Kenya, Africa (Video)

[noman.rasheed]

It certainly changed my tune.

I didnt read it anywhere, its just a logical conclusion.

[Acquisitor]

you assume that Melonhead became a fan of the book after reading it, right ?

sure, everyone will become a fan of the book consisting of pre medieval mid eastern folklore filled with trash, right ?

[Scandalf]

Not for witchcraft....

Yes they did, although to a lesser degree than Protestants.
I metioned something in a previous post on this thread (Benandanti, "Pignarùl").
Of course the Inquisition was more concerned over heresy in general, but Italy had it's witches (burned).

[Scandalf]

Like 6 in all history before it was banned completely (as soon as what happened got back to vatican). Compared to thousands for protestants before the respective authorities reigned them in.

Even King James of Scotland accused people of witchcraft. Burning witches is nothing to do with religion. It's religion that stopped them, and then takes the blame.

I don't disagree with this (although they were more than just 6!) since even the Romans before Christianity (nothing to do with paganism, just pratical reasons) promoted a law to put to death all "witches" (fortune tellers, etc...).

[blogen]

Like 6 in all history before it was banned completely (as soon as what happened got back to vatican). Compared to thousands for protestants before the respective authorities reigned them in.
Even King James of Scotland accused people of witchcraft. Burning witches is nothing to do with religion. It's religion that stopped them, and then takes the blame.

This was not so simple! There were real witches, they had not magic, they were criminals, like the contemporary African witches, who kill albinoes, poisoned, robbed and cheat peoples. And the society defend himself in every time from them. Burn them and they deserve it. The witches/healers/medicinemans in the dark ages are not innocent peoples. For example:

Two elderly women accused of being witches die after drinking poison to 'cleanse their souls'

Zimbabwe: female rapists trade in illicit sperm In Zimbabwe, three women and their male accomplice are due to go on trial in January accused of drugging men before extracting their semen, which is believed to be sold to witchdoctors.

Crackdown on witchdoctors after albinos killed to harvest body parts

Or what do you think, who advises the childrape against the AIDS?

The European dark age was ugly too!

[Empecinado]

This was not so simple! There were real witches, they had not magic, they were criminals, like the contemporary African witches, who kill albinoes, poisoned, robbed and cheat peoples. And the society defend himself in every time from them. Burn them and they deserve it. The witches/healers/medicinemans in the dark ages are not innocent peoples. For example:

Two elderly women accused of being witches die after drinking poison to 'cleanse their souls'

Zimbabwe: female rapists trade in illicit sperm In Zimbabwe, three women and their male accomplice are due to go on trial in January accused of drugging men before extracting their semen, which is believed to be sold to witchdoctors.

Crackdown on witchdoctors after albinos killed to harvest body parts

Or what do you think, who advises the childrape against the AIDS?

The European dark age was ugly too!

This was what a Inquisitor thought about. Basically, he said that there was need an evidence to blame somebody for witchcraft (presumption of innocence), just as in contemporary trial. No doubt the Inquisition was a tribunal far most advanced that the African "courts" today:

The real question is: are we to believe that witchcraft occurred in a given situation simply because of what the witches claim? No: it is clear that the witches are not to be believed, and the judges should not pass sentence on anyone, unless the case can be proven with external and objective evidence sufficient to convince everyone who hears it. And who can accept the following: that a person can frequently fly through the air and travel a hundred leagues in an hour; that a woman can get through a space not big enough for a fly; that a person can make himself invisible; that he can be in a river or the open sea and not get wet; or that he can be in bed at the sabbath at the same time... and that a witch can turn herself into any shape she fancies, be it housefly or raven? Indeed, these claims go beyond all human reason and may even pass the limits permitted by the Devil.

[blogen]

This was what a Inquisitor thought about. Basically, he said that there was need an evidence to blame somebody for witchcraft (presumption of innocence), just as in contemporary trial. No doubt the Inquisition was a tribunal far most advanced that the African "courts" today:

But the witches were the responsible ones. They were the dirty criminals, poisoners, murders, instigators and swindlers. Do not confuse the early modern protestant women-killings with the early medieval catholic witch-hunts! The witches were the darkness in the dark age. Among other things.

[Empecinado]

But the witches were the responsible ones. They were the dirty criminals, poisoners, murders, instigators and swindlers. Do not confuse the early modern protestant women-killings with the early medieval catholic witch-hunts! The witches were the darkness in the dark age. Among other things.

The massive processes and persecution against witchcraft did not exist among early Catholics. At first it was believed by church that witches did not exist and even believe in their existence was considered heretical. The poisoners, murderers and others were tried for being poisoners and murderers, or heretics, but not because witchcraft.

[blogen]

The massive processes and persecution against witchcraft did not exist among early Catholics. At first it was believed by church that witches did not exist and even believe in their existence was considered heretical. The poisoners, murderers and others were tried for being poisoners and murderers, or heretics, but not because witchcraft.

No, did not exist and Inquisition did not exist too! But there was folk witch-hunt (because of poisoning, murder and other witch-things) than today in Africa. So the Church created the Inquisition, and the Inquisition provided the fair procedure for the innocent heretics and witches.