Why Are Spaniards Historically So Prone To Miscegenation and Are They To Blame For Race-Mixing?

[Isleño]

Yes but those are not world maps. I personally cluster in Northern Europe on 23andme. Jews cluster in the European cluster on a world genetic map.

Don't need a world map. Only need a genetic pca containing the three populations in question: European, Jewish, Levantine. And as I have provided, these show Ashkenazi Jews as intermediate between the two. You cluster in Northern Europe because you are 3/4 non-Jewish Northern European[/I]. You are not an ethnic Jew, rather than a European admixed with Jewish admixture. Of course you will cluster in Northern Europe. Did you think you wouldn't? Lol

[Isleño]

No they're miscegenated with non-caucasoids unlike other Jewish populations (Ashkenazis, Sephardim, Mizrahis). This is the definition of the word. Look it up.

Caucasoid is outdated. Science doesn't used these terms anymore in new studies. I can provide a quote from a study that says so if you like. So arguing Caucasoid/Negroid/Mongoloid doesn't really work anymore. Now it's localized genetic populations. So with that said, Eastern Europe and the Levant are two genetically different populations that are not neighboring populations. That means Jews are miscegenated between these two genetically different populations.

[Anglojew]

I know many Jews here in the U.S., and they are JEWISH. Both sides completely. You are 3/4 gentile. You are not like the ones I know. These people look a certain way to me too. I wouldn't say you are an ethnic "modern Jew" (maybe in religion), but a European admixed with Jewish DNA. But what ever floats your boat. So according to those statistics you provided (it would be nice if you could attach a link) Jews are on their way to becoming mixed out. Hmmm, interesting.

The intermarriage rate, a bellwether statistic, has reached a high of 58 percent for all Jews, and 71 percent for non-Orthodox Jews

http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com.au/...-jews.html?m=1

Most of the children of so-called mixed marriages are raised with a Jewish identity though.

12 percent — or 87,000 — of New York Jewish households are “multiracial or nonwhite.”

http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/ne...yond-isolation

Maybe that's New York only? Still the biggest Jewish community in the USA and second in the world after Tel Aviv. I know a few Black and Asian Jews personally. Good people.

[Anglojew]

Caucasoid is outdated. Science doesn't used these terms anymore in new studies. I can provide a quote from a study that says so if you like. So arguing Caucasoid/Negroid/Mongoloid doesn't really work anymore. Now it's localized genetic populations. So with that said, Eastern Europe and the Levant are two genetically different populations that are not neighboring populations. That means Jews are miscegenated between these two genetically different populations.

Lol. Race is race. Nice try.

[Isleño]

Bulshit. Jews cluster with Europeans on a world map;




It's only when blown up they cluster slightly away but this is relative as no ones saying they should cluster in Sweden;

In a world map, Europe and the Middle East cluster close to each other (not with each other) when in comparison to Asians and Africans. But that's not what's in question. If you zoom in to where Jews cluster, they cluster in between Europeans and Levantines. I've provided 2 pca's that suggest this. World map doesn't mean anything. It only means regions cluster closer to other regions. But among localized populations, you can see the difference. Jews are genetically intermediate between Europe and the Levant. You cluster in Northern Europe, but you are not really an ethnic Jew, but a European with Jewish admixture. So you are not an ideal case to offer.

[Isleño]

Lol. Race is race. Nice try.

Nice try?

Look what this 2014 study says about "Caucasoid":

"Racial classification of Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid, though an outdated system is still followed by the forensic odontologists"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3970389/

Here he says Caucasoid/Negroid/Mongoloid is an outdated system, but is still followed by forensic personnel. But the science community does not follow it anymore, it's outdated. Science now follows localized genetic populations. So I think I succeeded with my try

Looks like you learned something new today! That's awesome.

According to the most modern scientific views on scientific race, we can toss that Caucasoid argument out the window. Localized populations are the most updated science and according to this, Northeast Europe and the Levant are two unrelated (non-neighboring) populations. Being they are genetically different, Jews are a miscegenation of these two genetically different populations.

The most updated science has now shown us that social race and scientific race are both bogus. We are nothing more than localized variations of one race, the Human race.

[Isleño]

http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com.au/...-jews.html?m=1

Most of the children of so-called mixed marriages are raised with a Jewish identity though.



http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/ne...yond-isolation

Maybe that's New York only? Still the biggest Jewish community in the USA and second in the world after Tel Aviv. I know a few Black and Asian Jews personally. Good people.

Sadly, many ethnic Jews don't see black and Asian Jews really as Jews. My mother is in Jerusalem as we speak on a Christian mission. My mother is a devout Christian and is in Israel regularly. She's told me of the attitude of ethnic Jews in Israel toward those not of Jewish blood. She said they don't look at them the same, almost like they are beneath them. I believe her, she's been to Israel over 20 times in a decade. She knows them well. Interestingly, 12% of Jews, from what you supplied, seem to be "Jews of color". That's an interesting way to put it, lol. Funny story, my mother told me the American Embassy in Israel is completely filled with Israeli Jews. I was like wtf??? Talk about total control, lol. If I didn't know any better, I'd say it's almost a flashback of Germany long ago. My mother also told me most local Christians in Jerusalem are Palestinians. That was an interesting fact.

I've heard of this thing about your if your mother is Jewish, then you are seen as Jewish, that makes me question the Ashkenazis themselves whose half European side is mostly from the maternal side. But that's stupid to me, if your father is Jewish, then you are part Jewish still.

As for that link you've provided, 71% was for non-Orthodox Jews. 58% is the actual number, but it's only for American Jews. It's not talking about international Jewry. But it seems Jews in the U.S. are mixing the actual Jewish blood out, but are raising their children Jewish. So in 200 years you'll have religious Jews that are not ethnically Jewish. Interesting.

So what is the majority of your ancestry? English?

[Anglojew]

Nice try?

Look what this 2014 study says about "Caucasoid":

"Racial classification of Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid, though an outdated system is still followed by the forensic odontologists"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3970389/

Here he says Caucasoid/Negroid/Mongoloid is an outdated system, but is still followed by forensic personnel. But the science community does not follow it anymore, it's outdated. Science now follows localized genetic populations. So I think I succeeded with my try

Looks like you learned something new today! That's awesome.

According to the most modern scientific views on scientific race, we can toss that Caucasoid argument out the window. Localized populations are the most updated science and according to this, Northeast Europe and the Levant are two unrelated (non-neighboring) populations. Being they are genetically different, Jews are a miscegenation of these two genetically different populations.

The most updated science has now shown us that social race and scientific race are both bogus. We are nothing more than localized variations of one race, the Human race.

Race exists. This whole forum is devoted to the subject.

[Anglojew]

Sadly, many ethnic Jews don't see black and Asian Jews really as Jews. My mother is in Jerusalem as we speak on a Christian mission. My mother is a devout Christian and is in Israel regularly. She's told me of the attitude of ethnic Jews in Israel toward those not of Jewish blood. She said they don't look at them the same, almost like they are beneath them. I believe her, she's been to Israel over 20 times in a decade. She knows them well. Interestingly, 12% of Jews, from what you supplied, seem to be "Jews of color". That's an interesting way to put it, lol. Funny story, my mother told me the American Embassy in Israel is completely filled with Israeli Jews. I was like wtf??? Talk about total control, lol. If I didn't know any better, I'd say it's almost a flashback of Germany long ago. My mother also told me most local Christians in Jerusalem are Palestinians. That was an interesting fact.

I've heard of this thing about your if your mother is Jewish, then you are seen as Jewish, that makes me question the Ashkenazis themselves whose half European side is mostly from the maternal side. But that's stupid to me, if your father is Jewish, then you are part Jewish still.

As for that link you've provided, 71% was for non-Orthodox Jews. 58% is the actual number, but it's only for American Jews. It's not talking about international Jewry. But it seems Jews in the U.S. are mixing the actual Jewish blood out, but are raising their children Jewish. So in 200 years you'll have religious Jews that are not ethnically Jewish. Interesting.

So what is the majority of your ancestry? English?

Anglo-French

I did specify non-orthodox Jews.

[B01AB20]

poor anglojew, trying to convince the world that jews are something they're not, ostrogoths, europoids or whatever... but you have the full support of the gypsy bruce lee in this hard and impossible mission.

revealing I'd say

poor poor anglojew, if I could I'd give you all or part of my supposed europeaness, being iberian is more than enough for me, but I'm afraid europeaness can't be given... you're or you're not, what a sorrow I have for you, poor poor anglojew.