Who is more Mongoloid Northern Europeans?

[drtprt]

Northeastern Europe



If not for their language, I would have thought it was Russian folk dances. Mongoloid admixture begins ~ 200 km east of Moscow.

[drtprt]

Eastern Europe, Volga region

[Wallace Darling]

I think Russians? I mean Russia is in Asia geographically so it makes sense they have this influence. But I am no expert.

[Victor]

Russians, Saamis and Finns of course.

Only exact minor groups of ethnic Russians in northern part of country have some Mongoloid traits caused by assimilation of local Ugric tribes during the colonisation of North. Average Russians of Central and Southern Russia have no more mongoloid traits than other European population. Genetically those northern Russians are closeк to Baltic and Ugro-Finnish ethnic groups than to other Russians.

[drtprt]

Only exact groups of ethnic Russians in northern part of country have some Mongoloid traits. Average Russians of Central and Southern Russia have no more mongoloid traits than other European population. Genetically those northern Russians are closeк to Baltic and Ugro-Finnish ethnic groups than to other Russians.

Not only the northern, but also the middle strip east of Moscow, the west and south of Russia - the minimum Mongoloid admixture.
There is a Mediterranean admixture in the south

[Victor]

Around 80% of Russian population lives in European part of the state. 90% of Asian Russia are empty lands, those 20% of Russian population lives in big cities like Novosibirsk, Tomsk, Vladivostok, Khabarovsk which are almost totally ethnic Russian.

[Victor]

Not only the northern, but also the middle strip east of Moscow, the west and south of Russia - the minimum Mongoloid admixture.
There is a Mediterranean admixture in the south

Yep, Southern Russia genetics is almost identical to Southern Ukraine, with slightly weaker Balkan influence. Vlach peasant and herdsmen migartion (Moldova and Transilvania Vlachs) to the Novorossia was quite intensive in 18 century, Balkan migration was not that intensive including mostly Serbian, Montenegrin and Greek military men and officers with their families. Zaporozhie Sich was full of Vlach cossacks aswell, even some hetmans were Vlachs. Lots of Moldavian serfs escaped the serfdom to become cossacks aswell.

[Komintasavalta]

Lol, I got neg repped for very old posts stating that Russia was Eastern Europe.

Just some search results:

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I guess you could include some northerly bits of it.

Saying that Russia cannot be Northern Europe because it is in Eastern Europe is like saying that Norway cannot be Northern Europe because it is in Western Europe.

Russians are genetically probably more northern than North Germanic people in terms of their EEF/MENA/wog admixture.

Below is the latitude of the center of population of European countries (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_of_population). The list is mostly based on data published by Eurostat (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6358087). Russia includes Asian Russia, whose population is concetrated further south than European Russia, but Russia still ranks higher than Denmark.

(latitude;country)
61.2;Finland
59.9;Norway
59.4;Estonia
59.1;Sweden
56.9;Latvia
56.6;Russia
55.7;Denmark
55.0;Lithuania
53.3;Ireland
52.7;United Kingdom
52.1;Netherlands
51.7;Poland
51.1;Germany

If Northern Europe is defined as the regions of Europe that are further north than the southernmost point of Denmark, which is located at approximately latitude 54.56, then based on population figures listed by Wikipedia in 2019, 12 out of the 20 most populous cities of Northern Europe are located in Russia. Out of the cities below, the total population is about 25 million for the Russian cities and about 5 million for the non-Russian cities.

(population listed by Wikipedia (millions);latitude;city;country or Russian federal subject)
11.92;55.6;Moscow;Moscow
5.28;59.9;Saint Petersburg;Saint Petersburg
1.26;56.3;Nizhny Novgorod;Nizhny Novgorod Oblast
1.23;55.8;Kazan;Tatarstan
1.12;54.8;Ufa;Bashkortostan
1.05;58.0;Perm;Perm Krai
0.97;59.3;Stockholm;Sweden
0.67;59.9;Oslo;Norway
0.65;60.1;Helsinki;Finland
0.63;56.8;Izhevsk;Udmurtia
0.63;57.0;Riga;Latvia
0.61;57.7;Yaroslavl;Yaroslavl Oblast
0.60;55.7;Copenhagen;Denmark
0.60;55.9;Glasgow;Scotland
0.58;57.7;Gothenburg;Sweden
0.54;54.7;Ryazan;Ryazan Oblast
0.54;54.7;Vilnius;Lithuania
0.53;55.7;Naberezhnye Chelny;Tatarstan
0.50;58.6;Kirov;Kirov Oblast
0.49;56.2;Cheboksary;Chuvashia

Out of the European cities whose latitude returned by Google Maps is 60 or higher, the 20 cities below have the largest population based on population figures listed by Wikipedia in 2019. The list is dominated by Finland (9 out of 20 cities), followed by Russia (6 cities, 2 of which are in Komi Republic), Norway (3 cities), Iceland (1 city), and Sweden (1 city).

(population listed by Wikipedia (millions);latitude;city;country or Russian federal subject)
0.65;60.1;Helsinki;Finland
0.35;64.6;Arhkangelsk;Arkhangelsk Oblast
0.30;69.0;Murmansk;Murmansk Oblast
0.28;61.8;Petrozavodsk;Republic of Karelia
0.27;60.2;Espoo;Finland
0.27;60.4;Bergen;Norway
0.24;61.7;Syktyvkar;Komi Republic
0.23;61.6;Tampere;Finland
0.22;60.3;Vantaa;Finland
0.20;65.2;Oulu;Finland
0.19;64.6;Severodvinsk;Arkhangelsk Oblast
0.19;60.4;Turku;Finland
0.18;63.4;Trondeim;Norway
0.14;62.1;Jyväskylä;Finland
0.12;64.1;Reykjavik;Iceland
0.12;63.0;Kuopio;Finland
0.10;60.7;Gävle;Sweden
0.10;63.6;Ukhta;Komi Republic
0.08;62.6;Joensuu;Finland
0.07;69.7;Tromsø;Norway

Here's the yearly average temperature of Northern European capital cities listed by Wikipedia, typically based on data from 1981-2010. 9 out of 10 of the coldest cities are located in Russia. Even the capitals of the Turkic republics of the VUR are colder than any Germanic capital.

(yearly average temperature;city)
-3.1;Naryan-Mar (Nenets Autonomous Okrug)
-2.3;Kárášjohka (Sápmi)
1.3;Syktyvkar (Komi Republic)
1.7;Kudymkar (Komi-Permyak Okrug)
3.0;Izhevsk (Udmurtia)
3.1;Petrozavodsk (Republic of Karelia)
3.2;Yoshkar-Ola (Mari El)
3.8;Ufa (Bashkortostan)
4.3;Cheboksary (Chuvashia)
4.6;Kazan (Tatarstan)
4.7;Reykjavik
5.3;Saransk (Mordovia)
5.7;Mariehamn (Åland Islands)
5.8;Moscow
5.9;Helsinki
5.9;Tallinn
6.1;Riga
6.7;Vilnius
6.8;Oslo
6.8;Tórshavn (Faroe Islands)
7.6;Stockholm
9.1;Copenhagen
9.3;Edinburgh

[Östsvensk]

Southwestern Russia is more Mediterranid and lacking in Mongoloid indeed. Lundman also noted that Tatars from Southwestern Russia had less Mongoloid admixture than other Tatars.

[Cristiano viejo]

Russians are genetically probably more northern than North Germanic people in terms of their EEF/MENA/wog admixture.

Hilarious. Hilariousx1000.