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Thread: Achievements and victories of Bulgaria a years after USSR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    Roughly said. I don't need to lie myself with the census when I look the situation with my own eyes. Gypsies are majority in most villages and small towns, thats the reallity. If we had to describe Bulgaria's demographic situation we would say that ethnic Bulgarians live mainly in big towns and cities (who also have at least 1 gypsy mahala), while the village population is 90% gypsy.
    This can't be true. 90% is just too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    I really doubt that the situation in Hungary is the same as in Bulgaria. Probably only Romania is worse than Bulgaria.
    It's not the same but very similar. We had 1-2% gypsies 50 years ago, but since hungarian reproduction rate dropped and the number of ethnic hungarians is decreasing since early 80s while gypsy reproduction rate remained the same/decreased little they are 10% now. Some estimate it's more than 10% even

    I believe this theory that Bulgaria have large gypsy population because of the "gypsy import" during communist time, is a legend only

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    Yeah, Bulgaria is a failed country. It could be interesting to compare Bulgaria and Belarus, two post-communist countries with similar initial demographics and economical achievements but with the different paths chosen - Bulgaria is in the EU, all pro-western and democratic; Belarus, on the contrary, is generally regarded as the most Soviet country of the former USSR and is a member of the Eurasian Customs Union.

    Population in 1990: Bulgaria 8 700 000 Belarus 10 200 000
    Population in 2014: Bulgaria 7 200 000 (-17,2 %) Belarus 9 500 000 (-6,9 %)

    Natural decrease per 1000 for the last five years:
    Bulgaria: -3.5; -4.6; -5.1; -5.4; -5.2 (one of the fastest shrinking population in the world)
    The future population estimates by the National Statistical Institute of Bulgaria:
    Year Population
    2020 6,950,436
    2030 6,519,217
    2060 5,384,040
    Belarus: -3.1; -2.7; -1.2; -0.7; -0.3 (actually the population decline has almost come to a halt)

    GDP per capita (PPP) according to the World Bank data: Belarus 17 600 Bulgaria 15 700
    The trend since the mid-90's (Belarus started from the lower figures but has surpassed Bulgaria recently):
    belarus-gdp-per-capita-ppp.pngbulgaria-gdp-per-capita-ppp.png

    Inequality-adjusted human development index (IHDI):
    Belarus 0.726
    Bulgaria 0.685
    The quality of life is higher in Belarus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil View Post
    Yeah, Bulgaria is a failed country.
    You wish but it's not.
    It would be interesting to compare the AIDS figures in Russia and the rest of the world. You must be a proud African!
    Now you can go back to the rock where you crawled from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Иван View Post
    You wish but it's not.
    It would be interesting to compare the AIDS figures in Russia and the rest of the world. You must be a proud African!
    Now you can go back to the rock where you crawled from.
    Lol, truth hurts. Bulgaria will cease to exist in a hundred of years from now with the current birth rates.

    As for Russia and AIDS, it's true this is an issue for Russia. Still the scale of the poblem is similar to that of the USA than African countries.
    Country Adult (15-49) prevalence %
    Swaziland 26.5 [1] 2012 est.
    Botswana 23.4 [1] 2011 est.
    Lesotho 23.3 [1] 2011 est.
    South Africa 19.1 [11] 2013 est.
    Zimbabwe 14.9 [1] 2011 est.
    Namibia 13.4 [1] 2011 est.
    Zambia 12.5 [1] 2011 est.
    Mozambique 11.3 [1] 2011 est.

    Russia 1.1 [1] 2011 est.
    United States 0.6 [1] 2011 est.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil View Post
    Lol, truth hurts. Bulgaria will cease to exist in a hundred of years from now with the current birth rates.

    As for Russia and AIDS, it's true this is an issue for Russia. Still the scale of the poblem is similar to that of the USA than African countries.
    Country Adult (15-49) prevalence %
    Swaziland 26.5 [1] 2012 est.
    Botswana 23.4 [1] 2011 est.
    Lesotho 23.3 [1] 2011 est.
    South Africa 19.1 [11] 2013 est.
    Zimbabwe 14.9 [1] 2011 est.
    Namibia 13.4 [1] 2011 est.
    Zambia 12.5 [1] 2011 est.
    Mozambique 11.3 [1] 2011 est.

    Russia 1.1 [1] 2011 est.
    United States 0.6 [1] 2011 est.
    It will exist as the 1st gypsy homeland in Europe


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokol View Post
    It will exist as the 1st gypsy homeland in Europe

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    But the gypsy population growth rate in Bulgaria is negative too, how will that work? Bulgaria's fertility rate has grown a lot since the 90's, it use to be something like 0.9 children per woman during the 90's, now it's 1.5 or something, we'll get there, don't worry. As for Macedonia, it will be the 3rd Albanian state on the Balkans in maybe 25 years or so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabul View Post
    But the gypsy population growth rate in Bulgaria is negative too, how will that work? Bulgaria's fertility rate has grown a lot since the 90's, it use to be something like 0.9 children per woman during the 90's, now it's 1.5 or something, we'll get there, don't worry. As for Macedonia, it will be the 3rd Albanian state on the Balkans in maybe 25 years or so
    Albanians are fleeing the Balkans in large numbers. Haven't you read the news??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokol View Post
    Albanians are fleeing the Balkans in large numbers. Haven't you read the news??
    Not the ones in FYROM from what I hear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabul View Post
    Not the ones in FYROM from what I hear
    Because we are an economic powerhouse compared to them.

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