Is Arabic identity weak among Lebanese?

[CertifiedCracker]

I had always considered white=european. Middle easterners are not european. lol. But the US census lumps MENA with Whites. And I grew up being called white boy and gringo by my peers. so..... lol

Well, I think it depends on upbringing and where you come from. No one ever woulda guessed my family is Middle Eastern, but there it is. Theres some darker members of my family but more of a Mediterranean dark, rather than black or Mexican. Everyone in my family has green or blue eyes. I have black hair though, but im the only one in my family with black hair, other than my dad. We are all literally just white trash, so the Middle Eastern was a surprise. I think GEDMatch linked us to Saudis, Moroccans, and Assyrians.

[StonyArabia]

People associate with whom they want to.

Of course you love uncle Toms don't you?

[Dandelion]

Of course you love uncle Toms don't you?

It's no uncle Tom if you genuinely feel a way about your own culture. It's being yourself.

In my opinion the complexed one is the one projecting rather.

[Aren]

I certainly hope so. There's little Arab blood in the Lebanese afterall.

[StonyArabia]

Ah ok. I don't think my great grandmother was from any of those clans or tribes. She was a very light skinned woman.

My point is that Lebanese and Palestinians are very similar, they are not two different groups. However the Bedouin tribal groups especially those that are Asli are very distinct by both culture, and even race if you will. That said we don't identify as White, because we see White as well Europeans, and many of those tribes are not fond of them due to historical reasons namely British colonization and the Anglo-American invasion of Iraq.

Yes the US is very accepting. In South America the hostility towards islam was known, so the women would not even wear their hijabs or the arabs would just convert to catholicism or christianity. In the US women happily wear their hijabs, and those arabs who are supposedly westernized still have their culture and beliefs deeply ingrained into them. They hold onto them because of how accepting the country is. And it is highly likely for first generation. It is their children who begin to lose a sense of their culture, especially because they have very little connection to their homeworld. Not all of them, but it does happen.

Yeah in South America there is forced assimilation, lets so in North America which is actually good. I think that if South America gotten Mideasterners from the Arabian peninsula, it would have been different out come than the ones that they have got from the Levant. However yea but North American culture is powerful but it does not erase their identity quite easily like that of South America.

[Sacrificed Ram]

Lebanese christians are arabs like mizrahi jews are arabs, just because they speak arab.

In Bible Jesus calls the inhabitants of Lebanon of Greco-Syro-Phoenician-Canaanean (dogs).

[StonyArabia]

It's no uncle Tom if you genuinely feel a way about your own culture. It's being yourself.

In my opinion the complexed one is the one projecting rather.

They are Uncle Toms because they hate themselves, and they want to be European, especially in the case of the Lebanese. The Lebanese want to be French. If you are implying I have complex, your quite wrong my friend, since I take pride in my culture and ancestry. The Lebanese also like to utter nonsense from their colonial masters they were Phoenicians lol, a people who are long gone before the Christian era. Anyways Lebanon is one of the least achieving nations in the world, and they only have produced artists nothing of worth or value like scientists which other Mideast nations have. Of course these Uncle Toms would be good European proxy like they have always been. Lebanese are known for their sycophant behavior toward their rulers.

[CertifiedCracker]

They are Uncle Toms because they hate themselves, and they want to be European, especially in the case of the Lebanese. The Lebanese want to be French. If you are implying I have complex, your quite wrong my friend, since I take pride in my culture and ancestry. The Lebanese also like to utter nonsense from their colonial masters they were Phoenicians lol, a people who are long gone before the Christian era. Anyways Lebanon is one of the least achieving nations in the world, and they only have produced artists nothing of worth or value like scientists which other Mideast nations have. Of course these Uncle Toms would be good European proxy like they have always been. Lebanese are known for their sycophant behavior toward their rulers.

You sound like a coon

[StonyArabia]

You sound like a coon

LOL. I am not Black, I am Middle Eastern

[Pulsa Dinura]

They are Uncle Toms because they hate themselves, and they want to be European, especially in the case of the Lebanese.

Historically, when did any Lebanese claim to be European? maybe it’s only in your head, in your head, Zombie, zombie, zombie, ie, ie....

The Lebanese want to be French.

So not only we want to be Europeans, but French too…Great! where from exactly? Lille? Strasbourg? Marseille? Bordeaux? Dijon?

If you are implying I have complex, your quite wrong my friend, since I take pride in my culture and ancestry. .

So since you take pride in your culture and ancestry, let other people take pride in their culture and ancestry too.

The Lebanese also like to utter nonsense from their colonial masters they were Phoenicians lol, a people who are long gone before the Christian era.

A whole population cannot disappear unless they’re nomads or bedouins. And you know, we’re not nomads nor bedouins.

It’s the same people whose ancestors spoke Canaanite, Aramaic , Syriac, Greek, Latin and recently Arabic.

The language may change, not the people.

Anyways Lebanon is one of the least achieving nations in the world

Yeah, and that’s why Lebanese are among the most successful worldwide and of U.S. immigrants.

What did your nation achieve?

and they only have produced artists nothing of worth or value

What did your nation produce, with or without value?

like scientists which other Mideast nations have.

Scientists from which other Middle Eastern countries?

Of course these Uncle Toms would be good European proxy like they have always been.

Lebanese are known for their sycophant behavior toward their rulers

You’re saying this as a proud Arab?

Greetings to T. E. Lawrence