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    Let's see the support of the West and how good friends Westerners have been so far.

    Invasion of Celt barbarians in Greece, Roman conquest of Greece and enslavement of Greece, christianization of Greece and genocide of Pagan Greeks under the orders of the Roman- Italian Constantine "the great", Crusades that conquered and destroyed the Eastern Roman Empire, Venetian occupation, Frankish occupation, the Catholic church and Pope who helped indirectly the Turks to conquer the Eastern Roman Empire and for the fall of Constantinople, the support of France and of Napoleon to the Turks(French and Turks were allies). Napoleon denied to help a Greek revolution, same goes for rest Europeans who for whole centuries denied to help Greece to get its freedom as the Ottoman Empire was an ally of the West against Russians, the treason of Americans, Brits and French in the Asia Minor campaign, where they promised to help the Greek army with supplies(munitions, food stuff and pharmaceutical materials) but they never sent them, making the Turks to defeat the Greek army and genocide the Greek population and then when Anatolian Greeks were trying to escape by the Turk assassins by using boats and asking to get on the ships of the "allies"(Americans, Brits, French) they threw on their heads boiled oils and cut their hands with knives by throwing them into the sea(!). They also denied to stop the Greek genocide that committed by the Turks, even if the sea near the coasts was full of the allied warships, they denied to throw a cannonade as the order was "do not help the Greeks". The German-Italian-Bulgarian invasion and occupation of Greece during WWII and the crimes they committed. The bombardment of the Piraeus port by the allies(Americans and Brits) during WWII, having as a result 5.500 Greek civilians to die. The British occupation of Cyprus and the crimes they did there, the treason of Cyprus by the Americans who in fact gave half of the Islands to the Turks. And finally the EU that has throw Greece in poverty with usury and the econimical exploitation(keep in mind that all EU states have signed for that), in the standards of the Bavaria occupation of Greece of Otto who bankrupted Greece after we gained "our freedom", in fact what we had gain was an enslavement to the West, as always.


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    1. Celt invasion of Greece, having as intent to plunder and burn the sacred temples of Greece, as that of Delphi.

    2. Roman conquest of Greece and enslavement of Greece.

    3. Violent christianization of Greece, Romanization and genocide of the Pagan Greeks under the orders of the Roman-Italian Constantine "the Great".

    4. Crusades. From there starts the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire that the Westerners hated so much, having as a result the great Empire, Greece and Balkans to be conquered by the Ottomans-Turks.

    5. Frank and Latin occupation of Greek regions. In the places where they occupied there still are the torture chambers were they tortured the Greek revolutionaries and the dissidents.

    6. The fall of Constantinople. Indirectly supported by the Pope and the Catholic church so the Turks to capture the great city and conquer the Empire. Pope blackmailed the Eastern Romans. For sending help he wanted the Eastern Empire to come under the West Roman administration. This made Byzantines to say "better a Turkish fez than Pope's tiara". The cannons that Turks used to throw down the walls of Constantinople was made by Austrians and were given to the Turks. Of course help never came from the West and as a result the Eastern Roman Empire and the christian Asia Minor, Greece and the christian balkans to be conquered and occupied by the Ottoman-Turks for almost half a millennium.

    7. Napoleon and France denied to help the Greeks to gain their freedom from Turks, as whole of Europe did for whole centruries. Napoleon and France were allies of the Ottomans and enemies of the Russians. West Europe saw the Ottoman Empire as an ally of the West and as a common enemy of their Russian Orthodox enemies.

    8. Greek Revolution of 1821. All of the West European states were against the Greek revolution and supported the conservation of the Ottoman Empire. The Greeks of the West succeeded to turn the philo-ottoman clime to a philhellenic and under the pressure of the philhellenic Europeans the Europeans states agreed to deal with the Greeks and give them some help but as an exchange they demanded Greece to come under Western administration, having from now on a Bavarian King, Otto. The Greek chief of the Revolution, Theodoros Kolokotronis, didn't like this Bavarian occupation and after the liberation of Greece by the Turks the Bavarians imprisoned him. As Theodoros used to say "The Franks didn't know how we Greek revolutionaries fought(guerilla fight) and they only were causing us damage"

    9. Asia Minor disaster. Responsible are the Westerners. They promised, by trapping us, to help us by sending supplies (munitions, food stuff and pharmaceutical materials) that they never sent, having as a result, while we had almost defeated them, finally the Turks to win the war as the supplies had been exhausted(there were not even bullets to be used anynore). What followed it's known, the Greek genocide and the lost of Greek territories, homes, properties in Asia Minor. Americans, Brits and French denied to help the Greeks and instead of that they threw on the heads of the Greeks who tried to save themselves by getting on the ships of the "allies", boiled oils and they also cut their hands with knives by throwing them into the sea! Lol, better having as ally the devil than Westerners!

    10. German, Italian and Bulgarian invasion and occupation of Greece during WWII. The crimes they committed are known.

    11. The American and British "allies" are bombarding the port of Piraeus during WWII, having as a result 5.500 Greek civilians to die.

    12. British occupation of Cyprus and Turkish invasion on the Northern part of the island. Responsible are Brits and Americans who agreed with the invasion. The Brits occupied the Island before the Turks and they hung the Cypriot rebels who fought for the freedom of their Island(EOKA fighters).

    13. Greece under the EU. Poverty, bankruptcy and non-stoping mass immigration from Near East/Middle East, North Africa/Africa and Balkans. The Germans owe to Greece the compensations of the compulsory occupation "loan", the grab of the gold of Greece as well as the grabbing of antiquities, all these have a greater value than what Greece owes to Germany, still we pay with our blood taxes to the German bank usurers. All EU states have signed for that too. What they intent to do is to redeem everything in the country, especially the wealthy natural sources, as oilfields, the natural gas sources, minerals and the the gold sources in which Greece is rich. They apply the Kalegri plan to make the Greek nation disappear from earth's face by giving Greek names/surnames to 3rd world immigrants as well as the Greek nationality and by promoting the anti-racist, as they call it, race mixing.

    Of course usually behind the Europeans always are the Zionist Jews. Europeans obey to them because they get earnings/fees by them. They are just slaves.

    Slavs of course are not innocent but somewhat better compared to Westerners.

    There are no friends between states anyway, just interests. Other states use to destroy other states, countries and nations when that's what their profit requires.

    A Greek and Orthodox cannot be an ally of the West, that's just what the sneaky West as well as the politicians are feeding the neo-Greeks . It's like saying Serbs or Russians can be allies, real allies, of the West. This can't be done! Greeks must wake up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    If the Greeks have already won, then why haven't we realised the Megali Idea yet?
    You said about the survival of the fittest, Greeks have survived, as a nation, language, culture etc. The Megali Idea is beyond a survival.

    I don't deny blaming the Latins and Turks but we also had a part to play in our own demise. The Eastern Roman Empire fought countless wars on all fronts against different factions during the course of 1000 years. You wouldn't think that maybe one day eventually, the empire would exhaust its resources and be overwhelmed? Sapping our assets against the Sanassian Empire has a part to play in our fall, along with losing Egypt to the Arabs.
    Historians have already answered that. You can agree or disagree.
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    How about Serbian invasion of Constantinople and Greece in 14th century during Emperor Dusan the Mighty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    How about Serbian invasion of Constantinople and Greece in 14th century during Emperor Dusan the Mighty?
    No one is innocent as regards the Greeks, neither Greeks can claim they were completely innocent towards others. We are all sinners after all others more, others less. What is discussed here are the bad things the West has done to the Greeks, especially with the fourth crusade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    How about Serbian invasion of Constantinople and Greece in 14th century during Emperor Dusan the Mighty?
    There never was a Serbian invasion of Constantinople.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ford View Post
    There never was a Serbian invasion of Constantinople.
    There was an attempt. Stephen Dusan an Emperor of Serbs and Greeks claimed to have right on Crown of Constantinople.

    He gathered loyal northern Greeks and Slavs and decided to invade, he got poisoned by Greeks or he had a heart attack, and army went home.

    It almost happened, but didn't.

    He claimed to be descendant of Constantine the Great lol, even in his Book of Laws.

    Just like George Maniakes who also wanted to conquer Constantinople, but died before a proper combat.

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    Keep shut your ass-mouth pseudo-USSR guerrilla.

    I'm working for the European East right now, both South-East and North East.
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