"Algeria was to France what India was to Britain". Discuss.

[Ouistreham]

One difference I will concede is that there did seem to be more mixing between Frenchmen and Berber women than between British men and Indian women.

There was in Algeria absolutely no mixing (much less than between English and Indians).
Islam was an insurmountable barrier.

[Ouistreham]

Well I suppose Indians in Britain and Algerians in France are still the biggest immigrant/diaspora populations in Europe (along with Turks in Germany too).

There are conflicting data on the matter, but there's no longer any doubt that Moroccans (and people of Moroccan origin) are more numerous than Algerians in Europe.
Furthermore, both diasporas differ: a large part of Algerians are rather secular and fled their country in (more or less vocal) opposition to the local regime, whilst Moroccans are staunch Muslims and are strictly controlled by the Moroccan government.

[Tooting Carmen]

There was in Algeria absolutely no mixing (much less than between English and Indians).
Islam was an insurmountable barrier.

But were there lots of French equivalents of memsahibs in Algeria?

[Tooting Carmen]

There are conflicting data on the matter, but there's no longer any doubt that Moroccans (and people of Moroccan origin) are more numerous than Algerians in Europe.
Furthermore, both diasporas differ: a large part of Algerians are rather secular and fled their country in (more or less vocal) opposition to the local regime, whilst Moroccans are staunch Muslims and are strictly controlled by the Moroccan government.

If you take Europe as a whole that is undoubtedly true. However, I still think there are more Algerians in France than there are Moroccans in any single European country.

[Ouistreham]

If you take Europe as a whole that is undoubtedly true. However, I still think there are more Algerians in France than there are Moroccans in any single European country.

I think you're right about it.
I just checked, there are currently (for obvious technical/geographic conditions) about one million Moroccans in Spain and much less Algerians (200,000 to 300,000).
But for the cultural reasons I mentioned, the Moroccan diaspora is a lot more visible, for instance here in France.

Similarly, Pakis and Muslim Indians are much more noticeable in Britain than non-Islamic Indians.

Other than that, I don't think that Algeria can compare to India.
India used to be the jewel of the British empire. French Algeria was only an attempt to build overseas an extension of Southern France, with a modern agriculture, industries, universities, railways and other infrastructures.
But ultimately it was a costly investment that never paid back.

[Duffmannn]

I mean, why would the Pied-Noirs be excluded though? I count them as colonists. I do believe the vast majority were still French, and Algeria's population was 11 million in 1960 before independence, over 1 million of them being European. 1 million out of 11 million seems a bit much for just bureaucratic and admin purposes.

French pied-noirs were a tiny minority. Sephardic Jews (present at the territory at the colonization moment), not mentioned by Tooting, were considered pied-noirs too.

[Duffmannn]

There are conflicting data on the matter, but there's no longer any doubt that Moroccans (and people of Moroccan origin) are more numerous than Algerians in Europe.
Furthermore, both diasporas differ: a large part of Algerians are rather secular and fled their country in (more or less vocal) opposition to the local regime, whilst Moroccans are staunch Muslims and are strictly controlled by the Moroccan government.

In Spain too.

For me seems very ridiculous fleeing from a country that gives no shit for you, and there you praise day after day the king and the moroccan government, reaching ridiculous points of praising.

[RogueState]

One difference I will concede is that there did seem to be more mixing between Frenchmen and Berber women than between British men and Indian women, at least once memsahibs became more numerous and prevalent. (The Anglo-Indians, who are basically Mestizos, are a tiny proportion of India's population and many of them have migrated to the West).

There were virtually no mixing between French pied-noirs and indigenous Algerians, it was a de facto segregation even if there was no formal anti-miscegenation law

It is well documented by the demographer-historian-anthropologist Emmanuel Todd, I can provide you the stats (AFAIK it was less than 0,04% of all mariages in colonial Algeria)

In fact, there were more Anglo-Indians than French-Algerians, despite being much more %-wise in their colony.

Now if we talk about modern situation, within France or UK, there are much more mixing between secularized Algerians (in fact people born in France of Algerian background) and ethnic Frenchs, than in the UK between South Asians and ethnic Britons.

[RogueState]

If you take Europe as a whole that is undoubtedly true. However, I still think there are more Algerians in France than there are Moroccans in any single European country.

As Ouistreham said, the Algerians are relatively more secularized (Kabyle-Berber identity where Islam was less strong than among Arabized Algerians) than Moroccans, especially those who went to Europe are often from the North (Chamal), and are more conservative (Riffians especially)

The Algerian radicals from the FIS did not migrate to France much

And also the Moroccan state is more organized in terms of networks (Consulates/embassies, funding mosques and other communautarian associations) than Algeria, which is a complete failed state...

The Tunisians are the most secularized of all Maghrebians FYI

[jfgh676]

In Spain too.

For me seems very ridiculous fleeing from a country that gives no shit for you, and there you praise day after day the king and the moroccan government, reaching ridiculous points of praising.

What are you on about. Are there even any moroccans in mexico ? where do you get this ridiculous opinion about moroccans being proud about their government in spain?