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Thread: Are you Paleolithic, Neolithic or Indoeuropean?

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    Default Are you Paleolithic, Neolithic or Indoeuropean?

    By Indo-European, I did NOT mean the language group, but the genetic group and anthropological phenotype related with the proto-Indo-Europeans.

    Paleolithic or Paleo-Eropean: A Pre-Indo-European group. Descendant of the hunter-gatherers who were in Europe before 8000 BC. Uralics (N / Lappinoids), Basques and Nordics (Northern Europeans) belong to this type.
    Neolithic: Another Pre-Indo-European group. Descendant of Middle Eastern or North-African farmers (J2 / Near Eastern Mediterranids, Alpinids & Armenoids) who colonized Southern Europe between 8000 BC and 4000 BC. Most Southern Europeans and Balkanians - including Greeks, Albanians, Romanians - belong to this type.
    Indoeuropean: unadultered descendant of the Indo-Europeans. More-or-less limited to Poles, Ukrainians and Russians.

    So, which one are you?
    Or a combination of which ones?

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    I think I'm mostly a combination of Paleolithic and Neolithic.
    I'm a mix between Alpinoid (Neolithic) and Cro-Magnid (Paleolithic) with some few Dinarid (Neolithic?) influences

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    Nordisation is best explained by Late Mesolithic and Neolithic to even Metal Age influences.

    So I would not call Nordid a Mesolithic type, but for sure no Palaeolithic one. Also the terms make little sense, considered that all people of Europe and the Near East went through this stages and the question can be only raised and answered for a region.

    Because some regions of Europe might have had a greater continuity than others and some of this groups might have been more successful than others during the transitions. So even if they are not from the Near East, they might be Neolithic or Metal Age or even later colonists for a SPECIFIC REGION.

    Also, as we look at this things, there are virtually not pure examples - genetically at least - left, practically ALL EUROPEANS are all the result of the mixture.

    So the question can only mean: Are you MORE pre-Neolithic-Near Eastern or MORE post-Neolithic-Near Eastern at best.

    Because mixed we all are.

    Pure Indo-European is another big joke, if we don't even know for sure yet where they came from and which genetic variation they had. Even typologically we just know they must have been somewhere between Nordoid and Mediterranoid, especially regionally Cromagnid with influences of the first elements, but that's it.

    We can also be pretty sure, that many of the same/very similar variants existed in Europe and abroad, which were NOT Indo-European, even if being hard to distinguish on the bones.

    So it is easier to tell who is pretty certain NOT Indo-European rathern than who actually is.

    Because a Nordoid, Mediterranoid or Cromagnid can be this or that. Where the Megalithic seafarers Indo-Europeans? Most likely not.

    But where the LBK's? Probably not.

    The Corded Ware people? Most likely.

    Early Kurgan? Probably.

    Later Kurgan? Most likely.

    Certain South East European and Central Asian cultural groups? Uncertain.

    If we can't say that for sure for the time of the ancient Indo-Europeans, what can you tell about modern ones? Only who is closer to those which were Indo-European with a relatively high certainty by phenotype and genes = closer to Corded Ware and later Kurgan culture.

    But the typical Corded Ware variants became mostly mixed early on, same for the Kurgan types, so again, unmixed? Not really, most Europeans have influences, some more, some less and until we can define it for sure, who can tell it?

    If you mix up genetics and phenotype, which can be pretty much split in individuals inside of a certain spectrum at least, it becomes even more complicated to absurd to answer the question, because one needs to answer it separately me thinks.

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    Pretty sure I'm close to 100% Paleolithic Or maybe not, after reading Agrippa's post above lol!

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    Palaeolithic. I believe my ancestors to have arrived in the British Isles or NW Europe at least during the Mesolithic.

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    Paleolithic for the most part, but I feel like there naturally has to be Neolithic input but it'd be of the North African, not West Asian, variety.

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    Well, i seem to be neolithic maternally and who knows what patternally.

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    How would anyone know for certain whetever they are 100% Paleolithic, Neolithic or Indoeuropean?
    I bet majority of people are mixture of all of them at varrying degrees.
    I'm fairly certain I have ancestry from all these groups, maybe I have got a stronger Paleolithic input but the other influence is still present.

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    a combination of the three options is more realistic.

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    I am mostly Paleolithic it seems. However there are NO pure Paleolithic people in this day and age, while one may be more Paleo then anything else, they are not pure, mixing occurred through out these thousands of years with other groups.. That is if we are talking about this genetic wise..

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