New G25 game - above and closest to distance 3! (with rules)

[Eurafricanid]

Im not sure what you try to imply, those are single pop distances not fits. You can get relatively close to populations who even have a bit of East Asian in single distance but they rarely won't fit well with multiple pops.

What? It's problem isn't that the Spanish sample is too distant, because of "too Taforalt", it's because it's too close to use, it needs more distant samples like Belgian

The infamous sample from southeast France that nobody matches is from Nice, an historically Italian town at the border, that became part of France only recently. It's so ridiculous that i have family members from Provence who are closer to Ukrainians than this sample supposedly from their own region. But at least it's a real sample from a study exploring the border surroundings of the Alps with Italy, vs internet samples collected from god knows where.

Interesting, so you didn't see the Swiss French in the middle with 1.6 of distance?

Let me show that again to you:
Distance to: French_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur
0.01354540 Spanish_Mallorca
0.01408360 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.01442538 Spanish_Penedes
0.01605360 Swiss_French
0.01610539 Spanish_Girona

Just like the so called "south French" sample isn't anywhere near like a southern half, it's samples taken at the border with the Basques, and those are the only people who depart from the main cluster, while even someone from Marseille can overlap with someone from Lille or Alsace as shown in real academic studies:

Distance to: French_Marseille
0.01117725 French_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur

But yes, I agree that the French_South sample is a bad average, that's why I didn't use it.

[oszkar07]

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 3.0034% / 0.03003394
43.2 Croatian
28.8 Finnish
17.6 Italian_Lazio
10.4 Polish

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 3.0038% / 0.03003801 | R3P
57.0 Croatian
29.2 Finnish
13.8 Italian_Lazio

[rothaer]

Too crazy for me. This is meant to be for modern slaves of labour. I'm retired and have not time to this foolery.

You feeling the need to explain why you do not take part is a sufficient honoration of the game.

[rothaer]

Here's my attempt at this:
Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 3.0006% / 0.03000610
48.0 Igbo
28.8 Welsh
21.8 Sardinian
1.4 Polish

After you still outcompete the nextbest one kind of tenfold would you mind sharing your G25 coords? It really looks like a calculatory jackpot.

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 3.1340% / 0.03133966
54.2 Mordovian
25.4 Basque_Spanish
20.4 Cypriot

Or this one:


Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 2.9528% / 0.02952816
51.6 Estonian
30.4 Portuguese
18.0 Assyrian

[Eurafricanid]

Or this one:


Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 2.9528% / 0.02952816
51.6 Estonian
30.4 Portuguese
18.0 Assyrian

It needs to be more than 3, it's a requirement.

[Dušan]

It needs to be more than 3, it's a requirement.

Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 3.0415% / 0.03041542
56.0 Estonian
25.2 Portuguese
18.8 Samaritan

[rothaer]

After you still outcompete the nextbest one kind of tenfold would you mind sharing your G25 coords? It really looks like a calculatory jackpot.

I can confirm Jgab602's incredible result (Distance: 3.0006% / 0.03000610).

[Petalpusher]

What? It's problem isn't that the Spanish sample is too distant, because of "too Taforalt", it's because it's too close to use, it needs more distant samples like Belgian


Interesting, so you didn't see the Swiss French in the middle with 1.6 of distance?

Let me show that again to you:
Distance to: French_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur
0.01354540 Spanish_Mallorca
0.01408360 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.01442538 Spanish_Penedes
0.01605360 Swiss_French
0.01610539 Spanish_Girona



Distance to: French_Marseille
0.01117725 French_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur

But yes, I agree that the French_South sample is a bad average, that's why I didn't use it.

Some Swiss French sample come up the most southern plotting in France because they are mixed with Italians in Switzerland as it might be expected, those might be close to the Provence sample, far from the neighbour regions of eastern France, which wouldn't make any sense. Same for some German Swiss samples ive seen. I don't still dont get what you are trying to prove, since academic studies already show otherwise.

Last time time i used a calculator with the Provence sample, it didn't even come up in my single top matches. It's so Italian that in the gedmatch calculators using this sample (they can't even spell it properly reading "provancestralal"...) it needs to use 50% or so US Scandinavians to fit (CEU_V). Im sure as hell not half French and half US Norwegian or something.

MDLP22

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.2% Italian_North (derived) + 43.8% Swedish (derived) @ 1.54
2 53.9% CEU_V (derived) + 46.1% Italian_North (derived) @ 1.89
3 97.4% German-South (derived) + 2.6% Finnish-South (derived) @ 1.93
4 52.7% CEU_V (derived) + 47.3% Provancestralal (derived) @ 1.94
5 97.2% German-South (derived) + 2.8% Inkeri (derived) @ 1.96

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4125144

Again, im not sure it's exactly the same you use, there are too many shady samples floating around at this point but beware this one isn't French, it's completely intercheangeable with North Italian, because the people living in Nice are indeed ethnic Italians. Aoste are somewhat intermediate between France's average and North Italians.

[RyoHazuki]

Real coords: this one was easy, its already pretty drifted so the references weren't dissimilar to my admix:


Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 3.0911% / 0.03091092
40.8 Icelandic
25.8 Dutch
21.0 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
12.4 Irish

My simulated coords, harder because the distances are much better:

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 3.0090% / 0.03009031
63.2 Czech
34.8 Portuguese
2.0 Finnish_East