Origin of Alpine Slavs

[rothaer]

A somewhat recent (September 2022) paper on the immigration history of Alpine Slavs; maybe interesting. I'm not sure if it was already shared here. If so, give me a hint and I can erase this thread.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0274687

[Blondie]

Yeah alpine slavs are slovenes and partly they speak hungarian today.

[rothaer]

It's a pity that they did not display the results from the whole "study area" that also contains the Upper Mur/Mura and Drau/Drava. Because Slavs went the whole way up at some time.

Okay, the result, however, is this:

- There was one migration into the Lower Mur/Mura and Drau/Drava valleys at "after" 500 CE by West Slavic speakers.
- And there was another migration at "before" 700 CE into the Drau/Drava and Sau/Sava valleys pushing up the valley and going farther west (sic!) by South Slavic speakers.

Considering this, the whole once Slavic settled areas in today's Austria between Czechs and Slovenes, i. e. also the area of the greater Karantania/Carinthia, obviously was West Slavic, except for a stonger South Slavic input in the Drau/Drava valley, which exibits a West and South Slavic immigration mixture in its lower part.

[Scarface F]

There is a new paper on Slovenians coming soon, looking forward to it.

[Scarface F]

Yeah alpine slavs are slovenes and partly they speak hungarian today.

Panonnian Slavs were not Slovenes. Even Prekmurje Slovenes who live in lowlands of eastern Slovenia have distinct history and dialect than "proper" Slovenes.

[lei.talk]

Panonnian Slavs were not Slovenes.

is there any congruency of pannonian slavs
with božo škerlj's gorid sub-variety of the pannonian basin

or is his pannonid
an outlier in that population

we are always eager
to refine our index of physical anthropology
with details geographical/historical/genetical.

thank you
for your patience and informative response
to my question.