Is USA the real enemy of Europe?

[robertb]

You mean: after the British, the Danes and Dutch bled themselves dry in Afghanistan. The Brits also in Iraq. All for American oil and for the poppy trade and for fucking Halliburton and all those private American contractors such as Blackwater - all with suspicious ties to a certain American president and vice president at the time, a certain George W. "Grandson of a War Profiteer" Bush and Dick "Corrupt Wanker" Cheney Do you know many Europeans died in those shitholes ? All in all. Around a 1000. For fucking nothing. Looking for a chap, that was actually treated for kidney problems in an AMERICAN MILITARY HOSPITAL IN DUBAI BACK IN 2003!

Oh come on bro. How many Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders and South Africans died in pointless European wars last century.

I suppose some secret American Jew tricked Hitler into invading Russia. lol

[Your Old Comrade]

Oh come on bro. How many Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders and South Africans died in pointless European wars last century.

I suppose some secret American Jew tricked Hitler into invading Russia. lol

Actually. American finance did fund both the Nazi's and the Bolsheviks. So you're not that far off.

[alnortedelsur]

Yes and no.

The real enemy of Europe are the Western (full of many Jews) criminal and parasite elites with feudal mentality. They use the US as an instrument, and the US American common/everyday people are also victims of those elites.

[Creoda]

They're a bunch of whiners. We need to dump them and build an Anglo alliance.

I agree, and it's already started - AUKUS (and now NZ is wanting to join since the hag Ardern is gone)

[Creoda]

You mean: after the British, the Danes and Dutch bled themselves dry in Afghanistan. The Brits also in Iraq. All for American oil and for the poppy trade and for fucking Halliburton and all those private American contractors such as Blackwater - all with suspicious ties to a certain American president and vice president at the time, a certain George W. "Grandson of a War Profiteer" Bush and Dick "Corrupt Wanker" Cheney Do you know many Europeans died in those shitholes ? All in all. Around a 1000. For fucking nothing. Looking for a chap, that was actually treated for kidney problems in an AMERICAN MILITARY HOSPITAL IN DUBAI BACK IN 2001! If that doesn't make your blood BOIL, then what would?

I blame Tony Blair for that (and John Howard in Australia), who went to war in Iraq against the overwhelming opposition of his people. They weren't forced. What disastrous ventures America gets into in the Middle East is their problem.

[Your Old Comrade]

I blame Tony Blair for that (and John Howard in Australia), who went to war against the overwhelming opposition of his people. They weren't forced. What disastrous ventures America gets into in the Middle East is their problem.

They made it our problem.

[Oghuz]

That is entirely on the European governments though. Nearly all of them have failed to meet the NATO military spending targets for decades, without sanction.

It's not about funding because EU military budgets are high, but they are spent on the procurement of expensive most conventional American or British weaponry mostly. EU lacks local strategic or indigenous military-industrial complexes. I will give you a picture.

Remove France, no EU country has any credible long-range Ballistic or Cruise missile strike capability. None has any large fleet of UCAVs or makes high-altitude air defence etc. Military nuclear programs do not exist at all because EU pressured everyone into signing NPT. Compare that to armed to teeth military machos of the east with ever-expanding industrial complexes.

A Government without fangs is reduced to play role of an administrator only. With debt and dependence upon foriegn corps providing jobs, how can such a government make bold socio-economic decisions on its own?

The various European peoples should really be grateful for NATO and the US for saving them a lot of money while providing total security, the US taxpayer forced to foot the bill.

One can turn this argument around and say that yes US (or the people controlling it) provided the security to EU states with its own expenditure but in return, it got permanent footholds in EU where no government can move an inch strategically without US approving it first. Be it bilateral trades or strategic posturing, EU countries just tow the American line. So while you are right that US taxpayers had to pay for it, the reward for American deep state was just too big. Job well done by them.

[Duarte]

Yes.

Yes. Next question.

Certainly not a friend.
Their politics, not average citizens, of course.

When you're the #1 most powerful country, you're gonna have jealous haters. Especially ones from broke, pissant Balkan countries and the Marijuana capital of NW Europe. Your irrelevance smells stronger than the garlic in my mom's pasta.

[Creoda]

They made it our problem.

I recall France and Germany of NATO saying no to the war in Iraq - for which France only suffered the cultural humiliation of having French fries in the US renamed Freedom fries for a few months. The UK also said no to going into Vietnam (still sore at the American support of Nasser in the Suez Crisis).

[Scarface F]

They're a bunch of whiners. We need to dump them and build an Anglo alliance.

Please do!