Brazilian Genetic Results Thread

[Laredo]

Here you said it's 80% Euro, which would make it more Euro than Argentina's national average.

You also said that South American and Cuban studies aren't representative for inflating the Euro input but conveniently Mexican ones are correct.

Your baseless "facts" are irrelevant.

Thanks again for proving to me you an Idiot, I even said to Tooting Carmen my previous time on the latm section was basically trolling.

And yes Southern American studies aren't accurate did you really think working classes of Venezuela Brazil and Chile would be spending their $300 dollar monthly salary In DNA test? Which means Middle classes are over represented.


Use your brain my friend.

[Jingle Bell]

What I've seen here is that we will never reach a consensus. Some members will say that genetic study A is biased, while others will say that genetic study B is the one with a bias.

One must take in consideration that none is representative of Brazil (or any other place). Two thousand (or ten thousand, whatever) samples will never be representative of the whole country or even the whole region it was taken from. There are lot of variables that gives a bias: the social class it was taken from, the part of the city, the city itself, and so on.

We know from this forum itself that the Brazilian population can be very different not only from a region to another, but from a city to another neighboring city.

Many members have a favorite study of their own (I have one myself) because of X reasons. No one is completely right or wrong in this subject.

Yeah also bcs Brazil is per se heterogenous, the comum is begin diferent, but most study still agree in somehwere btw 60% - 75% in National media, basically at Argentina levels (Or a bit less), less than Uruguay, bit more than Chile, and more than the rest of Southern America.
Obviously depends on region, the less European its a consent that is Maranhão or Amazonas/Pará, at somewhere btw 40 - 50% European, the most European also its a consent in Santa Catarina/Rio Grande do Sul, btw somewhere 80% - 85% (Similar to Uruguay), the less African seens to be the South as whole with about 5% - 10%, the most we have a consent that is Bahia (Not a surprise) with somewhere abt 40%, depending heavily in region, Salvador had about no less than 40% but no more than 60% SSA in any study, so would be Salvador at abt 50%? But Salvador and Metropolitan region takes only of 25% Bahia populations, places like Ilhéus had only 30% SSA, and the Agreste about 30% - 40%, the average would be abt 30 -35% imo, the most indigenous would be Pará/Amazonas or Maranhão with 30% in average, the less its Minas Gerais or Bahia, especifically Salvador, with both scoring no less than 5% but no more than 10%.

Sources:
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep09812
https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.1504447112
https://www.nature.com/articles/ejhg2014215
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040205/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6905439/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...t&opi=89978449

[Etelfrido]

Thanks again for proving to me you an Idiot, I even said to Tooting Carmen my previous time on the latm section was basically trolling.

And yes Southern American studies aren't accurate did you really think working classes of Venezuela Brazil and Chile would be spending their $300 dollar monthly salary In DNA test? Which means Middle classes are over represented.


Use your brain my friend.

If you were trolling at that time (with more than one account) then we don't have any reason to trust what you say now.

I know DNA tests aren't reliable (not only in South America, but in all of Latin America of which Mexico is part despite some Chicanos wanting to be related to the US) but scientific papers are more reliable than them, even though they might not be representative either.

And just for the record I'm not interested in competitions of who's whiter, Uruguay could as well be 100% European; the issue's that you clearly have a bias against certain countries that makes you disregard some professional studies and accept amateurish ones that fit your agenda.

[Camargo]

My problem with genetic studies is that most of the time they take samples in a few cities and show the results as if it was representative of a whole geographical region that is bigger than Ukraine, specially in very hetererogeneous regions like the Southeast or even the Northeast (yeah, that region is very heterogenous, despite what a lot of people think). Usually, the majority of their samples are taken in state capitals and, if anything, literally a couple of cities in the interior.

Even inside states there is a lot of differences. São Paulo, for example, is a very heterogeneous state, where the São Paulo Metropolitan Region is very different from the countryside (which differs from region to region too). The same applies in most of the other states, even in the whitest states like Rio Grande do Sul. Samples taken in Porto Alegre, with more African imput, would differ reasonably from the samples taken in the Southwestern region (with a lot amerindian influence) or the samples taken in the Serra Gaúcha (one of the most European regions in South America).

Some studies are taken from public healthcare system, while others are simply based on DNA sites that only the middle and upper-classes can afford. Anyway, they don't take more than 5 to 10 thousand samples. The only study I've seen with real high number of samples was posted here by member Zueira, with over 250 thousand people tested, but made by a private company.

[Laredo]

If you were trolling at that time (with more than one account) then we don't have any reason to trust what you say now.

I know DNA tests aren't reliable (not only in South America, but in all of Latin America of which Mexico is part despite some Chicanos wanting to be related to the US) but scientific papers are more reliable than them, even though they might not be representative either.

And just for the record I'm not interested in competitions of who's whiter, Uruguay could as well be 100% European; the issue's that you clearly have a bias against certain countries that makes you disregard some professional studies and accept amateurish ones that fit your agenda.

I don't not care wether you trust me or not, but you are very dumb here's why are you serious try to compare the Mexican diaspora with the Southern American? Really.?

First of all the Mexican diaspora or Chicano origins are mainly working class origins unlike southern Americans are most likely middle or upper class from their countries.


Florida specially Miami it's full of middle class Brazilians Argentineans etc living there.

Brazil or south Brazil could be 80%+ European I do not care, but those numbers are NOT realistic wether you like It or not.

Don't forget you are engaging with someone who has a bit over 10 years of knowledge to these subjects since I was a teen ager.

[Laredo]

And what studies are you talking about? I agreed to the one Jingle Bell posted.

Enough of this bullshit already.

[Etelfrido]

And what studies are you talking about? I agreed to the one Jingle Bell posted.

Enough of this bullshit already.

The one I posted was the same one he had provided, I just pointed to a specific table of it and you didn't agree with it.

[Laredo]

The one I posted was the same one he had provided, I just pointed to a specific table of it and you didn't agree with it.

What I meant Is agree with the whole Brazilian samples more or less with the exception of the South It's a bit more European than what I personally believe.

The South can be 80% European, but more than that sounds like an extreme exaggeration unless they are cherry picking /bias Influence by selecting certain group of people there.

The thing Is many people can look white even by being only 65%" It's not really that rare it's not the most particular case but It happens.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ify-Brasileiro

[DraviXi99]

If you were trolling at that time (with more than one account) then we don't have any reason to trust what you say now.

I know DNA tests aren't reliable (not only in South America, but in all of Latin America of which Mexico is part despite some Chicanos wanting to be related to the US) but scientific papers are more reliable than them, even though they might not be representative either.

And just for the record I'm not interested in competitions of who's whiter, Uruguay could as well be 100% European; the issue's that you clearly have a bias against certain countries that makes you disregard some professional studies and accept amateurish ones that fit your agenda.

Rmula,together with carlitos were for sur esome of the most retarded posters on the forum yes,but is past.

[arco]

what's the best dna test for brazilians who are not mutts? i say that because it won't change much if it's accurate for indigenous or africans