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    There is no solving human nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    There is no solving human nature.
    No, which is why we have laws and institutions. You cannot eradicate crime and violence, only modify and punish them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insuperable View Post
    It seems that when wemen don't fear their husbands we get 70% divorce rates initiated by wemen (or 90% by those wemen having careers) we get self entitled princesses with zero accountability.

    ...if your post was directed at me. Otherwise ignore it.
    I mean, if marriage is something that has to be held together by fear, what's the point? I wouldn't willingly enter a situation where I didn't really get anything out of it and just felt scared all of the time. I would have had absolutely no problem just being single forever if that was the only other alternative.

    Divorce rates are a complicated and nuanced issue. I see lots of healthy marriages around me, even including career women. Most divorces are from repeat offenders (of either sex) and just because a woman files the paperwork first doesn't mean anything about whose fault it really was, although usually it's both (I've seen very few divorces happen that everyone with any sense couldn't predict when the two people got together).
    It's Modelo Negra time

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    My partner always says the definition of a man, and the primary, most important purpose is protector of women and children. I agree and based on this definition I see domestic violence as non- masculinity. I don’t understand how some people find it masculine to abuse their wife or children or somebody weaker than them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ylla View Post
    My partner always says the definition of a man, and the primary, most important purpose is protector of women and children. I agree and based on this definition I see domestic violence as non- masculinity. I don’t understand how some people find it masculine to abuse their wife or children or somebody weaker than them.
    Thug music.
    There aggression is portrayed as masculine and woman are degraded in music

    That's how it happen
    Hip hop is very popular.

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    Finding a decent man.
    Don't date short women if you don't want short kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ylla View Post
    My partner always says the definition of a man, and the primary, most important purpose is protector of women and children. I agree and based on this definition I see domestic violence as non- masculinity. I don’t understand how some people find it masculine to abuse their wife or children or somebody weaker than them.
    I think DV is mostly a low IQ problem. It's theoretically "masculine" because the form it takes most of the time is angry manchildren who are unable to control their big testosterone fee fees (and before the male victims come at me - yes there are female equivalents to not being able to control big estrogen fee fees, they're just not relevant in this topic).

    In some places it's a part of the culture. In Eastern Europe, historically, but thankfully not today, it was almost a given. My grandma thinks I am some terrible evil nag because I think my grandpa doesn't deserve my time of day because he used to hit her and my mom. Won't let him around my kids, no matter what, and he can rot in the streets if she dies and he needs care lol. You can play "whose fault is it" but really you had two broken, stupid people in a broken, stupid marriage, where the brokenness and stupidity were normalized by their culture. I'm not sure how much of a role masculinity/femininity played in any of it, however, the women in that part of my family would say that's just how men are. But they're not. Men are capable of so much better behavior than that.
    It's Modelo Negra time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon View Post
    Finding a decent man.
    For once I agree with you.

    I have seen so much "I can change him!" occur around me.

    It never works.

    Past the age of like, 21 or something, or unless she is genuinely mentally disabled, I don't have sympathy for the women.

    I've advised young women to not be with "that guy" - they laughed at me, thought I was out of touch. Then they got abused. No sympathy from me.
    It's Modelo Negra time

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajputprincess View Post
    Thug music.
    There aggression is portrayed as masculine and woman are degraded in music

    That's how it happen
    Hip hop is very popular.
    They didn't have thug music in rural socialist Eastern Europe yet my alcoholic dumb fuck grandpa still beat my dumb fuck grandma.

    It's a low IQ problem, primarily.

    I don't think they have thug music in ultra-Muslim parts of the Middle East, yet the low IQ men there still hit women.
    It's Modelo Negra time

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