Forum members who'd never opened a book in their whole lives

[Insuperable]

Muh so sophisticated and refined, muh read many novels.

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Subjects in MIOC gymnasiums (gymnasiums for natural sciences and mathematics)

Croatian, Latin, additional language, music, arts, psychology, sociology, philosophy, logic, history, geography, politics, religious education, P.E and then mathematics, phyics (which you have in every vocational school using the similar program), biology, informatics.

Of course from most of that crap the most pages of book they are going to read will be novels from Croatian.

It's a shame weirdos like yourself are anywhere near laws.

Except little info you forgot to share is that they have more hours of maths and less hours of social science related subjects. Latin is only studied for 2 years, sociology and logics for 1. Kme kme

All people who graduated from such gymnasiums I know went to study medicine or STEM except one guy who finished geography and he finished that at PMF not on filozofski.

You are again crying over nothing and you forgot another little detail STEM graduates are highly likely to emigrate abroad because there are not much high tech jobs for them here. If I were to write law, I would prevent that from happening.

You are welcome.

[Scarface F]

Muh so sophisticated and refined, muh read many novels.

You could do with more refinment.

[Insuperable]

Except little info you forgot to share is that they have more hours of maths and less hours of social science related subjects. Latin is only studied for 2 years, sociology and logics for 1. Kme kme

All people who graduated from such gymnasiums I know went to study medicine or STEM except one guy who finished gheography and he finished that at PMF not on filozofski.

You are again crying over nothing and you forgot another little detail STEM graduates are highly likely to emigrate abroad because there are not much high tech jobs for them here. If I were to write law, I would prevent that from happening.

You are welcome.

Where I am from we don't have such gymnasiums, only classical gymnasiums and those related to languages. Many regions in Croatia don't. I am just saying based on my experience. And why are there not much tech jobs here? Because it's the question what was before chicken or egg, if you know what I mean.

[Scarface F]

Where I am from we don't have such gymnasiums, only classical gymnasiums and those related to languages. Many regions in Croatia don't. I am just saying based on my experience. And why are there not much tech jobs here? Because it's the question what was before chicken or egg, if you know what I mean.

Maybe such bright minds as yourself can figure it out, how to create more high tech IQ jobs.

Because based on demand on job market, except for IT and medicine , we don't need any high qualified work force, we need cleaners, cooks, waiters and similar to service rich westerners on their vacations.

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of yes, and there is mass egzodus of medical personnel ongoing. Soon you will be treated by Nepali doctors.
I just wonder who will be left to treat Nepalis in Nepal

[Insuperable]

Maybe such bright minds as yourself can figure it out, how to create more high tech IQ jobs.

I am not that smart.

Because based on demand on job market, except for IT and medicine , we don't need any high qualified work force, we need cleaners, cooks, waiters and similar to service rich westerners on their vacations.

Croatia if I am not mistaken produces enough doctors, it's just that they go elsewhere to work where salary is much better. That's the problem of shortage, not education. The same thing is with I think IT sector. I read around 2005 that Croatia lacks every year hundreds of engineers in every profession. I can only imagine what is situation now.

And of course cleaners, cooks, waiters, people to work hard physical jobs are red zone which Nepalis fill in.

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@ Insuperable
Maybe that's how things are for you in Bosnia.

Technical schools are considered on pair with Economic schools, and some courses, such as geodesy or electrotechnics are even higher valued than Economic and even Medical schools.

Gymnasiums vary in orientation.
Although the subjects that students encounter over the four years are the same, their representation and processing in terms of hours isn't.

We at Mathematics-Natural Sciences Gymnasium went through all of the literature, but not as thoroughly as Linguistics or General Gymnasium students did.

Yeah, vocational "three-year schools" are primarily for retards and delinquents lol, but there are some exceptions.

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I am not that smart.

Better pro business and investment climate would help. But it's not easy at all. Our economy will never be able to compete with US or Germany or Japan. That is why it should not compete. Free market benefits only largest and most powerful economies and others are brain drained by them.

Croatia if I am not mistaken produces enough doctors, it's just that they go elsewhere to work where salary is much better. That's the problem of shortage, not education. The same thing is with I think IT sector. I read around 2005 that Croatia lacks every year hundreds of engineers in every profession. I can only imagine what is situation now.

And of course cleaners, cooks, waiters, people to work hard physical jobs are red zone which Nepalis fill in.

They should not be allowed to emigrate, but that is against EU and other human rights crap laws.
We have provisions that doctors who are on specialisation can leave only if they repaid what state invested in their education, but there are apparently loopholes to avoid that.

Yestarday I was out with friends and one female friend, a doctor ongoing specialisation said she applied for jobs in England. She doesn't plan to pay any of specialisation she already received. I told her I don't support her intent.

[Insuperable]

@ Insuperable
Maybe that's how things are for you in Bosnia.

I went to high school in Croatia, including elementary school so I know.

Technical schools are considered on pair with Economic schools, and some courses, such as geodesy or electrotechnics are even higher valued than Economic and even Medical schools.

Since I went to Croatian high school I can tell you that technical schools were regarded very low. I remember when I was enrolling in high school (I had 56 out of 60 points so I could have choosen whatever I could, from any gymansiums to locksmith), the threshold for economics was much high then it was for technical high school, not much below gymansiums). I think it was 50 or 52 or something for gymnasiums, 48 for economics and 38 for technical school. It was something like that. Sometime after the threshold for technical school was raised significantly. If you ask me I would have put 52 for technical schools, 48 for gymnsiums and like 10 for economics. And of course throw out useless novels from technical schools.