Madeirans, the people of Madeira

[Sikeliot]

http://link.springer.com/article/10....439-003-1024-3

13% mtdna L with another couple percents of another lineage that they determined to be Sub-Saharan African.. amounting to 14.8% total. I believe that is the study that says that up to 25% of the lineages in Funchal were L.

[Gaijin]

http://link.springer.com/article/10....439-003-1024-3

13% mtdna L with another couple percents of another lineage that they determined to be Sub-Saharan African.. amounting to 14.8% total. I believe that is the study that says that up to 25% of the lineages in Funchal were L.

It only states about 13%, again no reference to Funchal.

[Slycooper]

http://link.springer.com/article/10....439-003-1024-3

13% mtdna L with another couple percents of another lineage that they determined to be Sub-Saharan African.. amounting to 14.8% total. I believe that is the study that says that up to 25% of the lineages in Funchal were L.

Like you said the L comes from africans not Portuguese.

[Sikeliot]

Like you said the L comes from africans not Portuguese.

Yes. And I don't know why anyone would deny that. It's very possible that the odd looking Madeirans I point out are like Cristiano Ronaldo and have recent CV ancestry and that the mtdna L has nothing to do with it, and having that haplogroup DOES NOT make a Madeiran any less Portuguese or change the fact that 99% of the people on that island obviously look like the rest of their countrymen.

[Atlantic Islander]

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[Riki]

I mean it is possible my great grandmother from Madeira could too have had Cape Verdean ancestry considering her own brother and his children (her nieces/nephews) were frequently mistaken for being black/mixed.

Sera que não entendes que Famílias como a tua, são produto dos Portugueses e não o contrario.

[Anthropologique]

@ Food

LMAO... What planet are you from?

[Anthropologique]

Yes. And I don't know why anyone would deny that. It's very possible that the odd looking Madeirans I point out are like Cristiano Ronaldo and have recent CV ancestry and that the mtdna L has nothing to do with it, and having that haplogroup DOES NOT make a Madeiran any less Portuguese or change the fact that 99% of the people on that island obviously look like the rest of their countrymen.

The autosomal metrics provide the true picture.

[Slycooper]

obv^ but the L is higher there due to it's settlement history.

[Anthropologique]

Yes. And I don't know why anyone would deny that. It's very possible that the odd looking Madeirans I point out are like Cristiano Ronaldo and have recent CV ancestry and that the mtdna L has nothing to do with it, and having that haplogroup DOES NOT make a Madeiran any less Portuguese or change the fact that 99% of the people on that island obviously look like the rest of their countrymen.

I think that some of the mixed Madeirans I've seen in the U.S. may actually be the result of mixed marriage in the U.S. I know one American who's maternal grandfather married a Puerto Rican and he claimed to be Madeiran-Portuguese. He looked uber-mulatto.