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    Default Human family tree Discovered through DNA

    The Human family tree is finally and officalley figured out it is not like every little genetic thing to happen in human history is figured out but now we know how we are all related and who is more related to who and we have a basic idea of how people migrated around the world.

    Autosomal DNA is a term used in genetic genealogy to describe DNA which is inherited from the autosomal chromosomes. An autosome is any of the numbered chromosomes, as opposed to the sex chromosomes. Humans have 22 pairs of autosomes and one pair of sex chromosomes (the X chromosome and the Y chromosome). Autosomes are numbered roughly in relation to their sizes. That is, Chromosome 1 has approximately 2,800 genes, while chromosome 22 has approximately 750 genes. There is no established abbreviation for Autosomal DNA: auDNA (more common) and atDNA are used.

    the National Genographic project https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/results/ calls their austomnal DNA test the Who am I test because it tells u basically ur full ancestry.

    This is the human family tree by globe13 austomnal DNA


    This is a MDS graph of Human austomnal DNA groups the closer one group is to another the more relate dthey are u can see that certain races group together

    If u cant read it hear is a link http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Xal68HraeT.../s1600/1_2.png

    http://dodecad.blogspot.com/

    here is a list of 100's of populations globe 13 austomnal DNA results.
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...tUE9kaUE#gid=2





    These are the Human Families according to globe13 austomnal DNA





    Sub Sahren African family



    Humans began in central and South Africa about 200,000-300,000ybp Sub Sahren Africans ancestors broke off from non Africans ancestors some where probably in central Africa 100,000-150,000ybp while non Africans ancestors migrated away from Africa Sub Sahren Africans ancestors stayed

    Sub Sahren Africans are more related to each other than to non Africans but they are not extremly related PAleao Africans, east Africans, and west Africans probably split from each over 40,000ybp the only major phiscal similarty that they have with each other is black skin and nappy hair but they vary in body build and facial features and the San people don't have black skin they have light brown skin sub sahren africans have also inter married with each other alot.


    here are some examples of sub sahren africans









    Non African family





    The non African family includes most humans alive today about 100,000ybp non Africans ancestors broke off from Sub Saharan Africans and they migrated to northern Africa and the middle east any one who is not from sub Sahara Africa is apart of this family

    The non African family breaks down into two major sub families the Caucasian family in west Eurasia and north Africa and the Mongoloid Oceane family in east Asia, north and south America, and Australian continent.

    but the Oceania Mongoloid race seems to be more related to sub Saharan Africans than to Caucasians in austomnal DNA if that is true then there is no such thing as the Non African family. just two separate races and both don't live in Africa.

    here are pictures of non Africans since this family is so old Non Africans have formed their only groups and their own distinct features







    Oceania Mongoloid Family





    The Oceania Mongoloid family broke off from the non African family about 80,000-90,000ybp probably in the mid east they migrated first to India about 80,000ybp then to southeast Asia about 60,000-70,000ybp then they split into two separate families the Mongoloids migrated into central and north east Asia the Oceania migrated south into the Australian continent and the Philippines since the two families have been separated for so long each developed their own unqie features Mongloids have very high check bones and long straight hair Mongoloids in east Asia the the Americas also have alot of slanted eyes Mongloids in east asia devolped palish skin over 12,000ybp while most other Mongoloids have brownish and reddish skin Oceana have mainly black skin, nappy hair, and similar facial features to sub Saharan Africans basically they look identical to sub Saharan Africans except the ones in Australia have a mixture of Straight hair and brown skin and nappy hair and black skin

    and u cant tell they are related by looks before DNA people would have never guessed they had any relation but DNA has shown they are very related and can be classified as the same race the Mongoloids migrated across all of east Asia and most of central Asia and they migrated to the America about 20,000-25,000ybp and eventuality covered all of north and south america the Oceania migrated across the entire Australian Continent and most pacific islands. about 4,000-3,000 years ago many people who where in the Mongoloid family migrated into Oceania territory and in the Pacific islands and the Philippines that is why most people in the Philippines and pacific island today are mainly Mongoloid.

    is is debatable whether south Asians aka Indians are in the Oceania Mongloid family or if they are in the Caucasian family they have a Caucasian skull shape and facial features but they have both Caucasian and Oceania Mongoloid Y DNA and mtDNA haplogroups and their globe13 austomnal DNA is 34.7% west Asian which is Caucasian and 55.7% south asian which is Oceania Mongoloid since south Indian people have a Caucasian skull shape and facial features they probably have mainly Caucasian blood but they defintley have alot of Oceane Mongloid blood south Indians can count as Oceania Mongoloid and Caucasian the Mongloid Oceania blood South Asians have is from the migration of Mongloid Oceane people to India about 80,000ybp but Indians also have some east asian blood too.

    in far far far south India there are people who are 100% Oceania Mongoloid they like the Admanese people https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...U4NO-ARD2jk_Pgthey have been living in India since the Oceania Mongoloids first migrated there about 80,000ybp

    here are pictures of Oceania Mongoloid family since the Mongoloid side and Oceania side look so different from each other even in the Mongoloid and Oceania familes they have their own sub groups which look different from each other Australian aboriginals look very different from Papua New Guineans Chinese look very different from Maori

    i put Mongoloids on top and Oceania on bottom





    Caucasian Family




    The Caucasian family broke off from the non African family about 80,000ybp in the mid east while the Mongloid Oceania race aka Oceania Mongoloid race migrated east to India about 80,000ybp Caucasians ancestors stayed in the mid east about 50,000 ybp Caucasians began to migrate to Europe, north Africa, and India today Caucasians take up all of west Asia(mid east), Europe, North Africa, most of central Asia, and South Asia(India)

    unlike the Mongoloid Oceania race all Caucasians look very similar and have not really changed that much physically in the last 60,000 years all Caucasians have the same skull shape , body build, and facial features Caucasians also have more body hair and facial hair than any other people in the world.

    while everyone else in the world has all black hair brown hair is the main hair color of Caucasians who live in west Asia, north Africa, and Europe and about 60,000ybp Caucasians in the mid east developed genes that sometimes create palish white skin the Caucasians that migrated to Europe between 50,000-35,000ybp became dominated by these genes about 22,000-32,000ybp which is why Europeans today have white skin but some Caucasians in the mid east and north Africa also have white skin and the same genes that create white skin as Europeans https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...Ad9DA-puyXssLg

    Caucasians in Europe also developed their own hair colors light brown, blonde, and red and their own eye colors blue,green, hazel etc. Blonde hair is very spread out in Europe and very popular blonde hair would have began probably over 20,000ybp somewhere in Europe same with blue eyes and all other non brown eye colors red hair probably started either in Volga Russia or northern Spain about 13,000-17,000ybp red hair spread with Indo European languages to western Europe 5,000ybp https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...zkDGe4ZGqrCHfg before that red hair almost only existed in central Russia and Ukriane.

    Caucasians that migrated to India about 50,000ybp inter married alot with the Oceania Mongloid people that already lived there and they also developed blackish skin this could be from inter married with Oceania Mongoloids or it was a adaption to India

    originally Caucasians would have had brownish and light brown skin like ones in the mid east and north Africa



    here are some examples of Caucasians






    i hope u guys like plese post ur opinon
    i worked hard in this thread i wanted to put info of Y DNA and mtDNA haplogroups and human races but there is not enough room

    Here are other Threads i made about DNA
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...n-and-European
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...dern-Europeans
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...-000-8-000-ybp
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...3-800-1-900ybp
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...NA-from-German
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    I personally consider Oceanic peoples separate from Mongoloids, they seem to have physically diverged enough and even genetically to an extent.

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    I always thought calling Indians Caucasoids, especially with the extreme variation going on in India, a huge misfire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    I personally consider Oceanic peoples separate from Mongoloids, they seem to have physically diverged enough and even genetically to an extent.
    I knew most people would not believe Mongoloids and Oceania where the same race because they look so differnt but i have been looking at Y DNA and mtDNA and Mongoloids and Oceania have many of the same groups like MAori people have about 100% Y DNA C and K(xclt) same with Australian aboriginals ainu in japan have mainly Y DNA D and mtDNA M same with admanese people in mtDNA and Y DNA haplogroups Mongoloid people and Oceania people are in the same family so i thought some how they have to be relted

    then i found these austomnal DNA results which put Oceania people ine the same family as Mongoloids and that did not surprise me since Mongoloids and Oceania are very related in Y DNA and mtDNA haplogroups and they are very related in austomnal DNA i think there is no doubt that they are in the same family or race

    the 3 major races are Sub Sahren African, Caucasian, and Oceania Mongoloid i have heard the Genographic project and other people say the Australian aboriginals where the first to leave Africa and went through India what they are leaving out is east Asians and native Americans ancestors where migrating with them and that they did not go straight from Africa to India they fist went to the mid east Caucasians ancestors left Africa with Oceania Mongloid's ancestors about 100,000ybp

    so mongoloids ancestors would have looked "black" 80,000 years ago and it seems like in austomnal DNA the Mongoloid Oceania race is more related to sub Saharan Africans than Caucasians which could explain why they look black

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    north Indian people are pretty much 100% Caucasin they do have some east asian

    but south Indian people have Y DNA L and T which comes from MOngloid Oeania K(xclt) they also have mainly Mongloid OCeania mtDNA M and R subclades and the south asian austomnal DNA group is more related to the Oceania mongloid family than Caucasian the first humans in India where Mongoloid Oceania about 80,000ybp then Caucasians from the mid east came about 40,000ybp and inter married

    south indians have caucasin skulls and probably more caucasin blood but they still have alot of OCeania mongloid

    in far far far south inida their are the Admanese islands the people there are Oceania Mongoloid and they have probably been isolated for over 60,000 years they are from teh ancestor group of all Mongoloid and Australoid aka Oceania people they are the group that used to dominate all of india

    here are some pictures of them


    [img]http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=34892&d=1371755388[imgl]

    these are the people that Caucasins that migrated to India 40,000ybp inter married and this is what the first Oceania Mongloid people would have looked like 80,000 years ago

    it seems like in austomnal DNA Oceania Mongoloids are more related to sub Saharan Africans than Caucasins which could explain why they look black there is a good chance the first people had black skin and nappy hair we al redy know that Mongloid Oceania race orignally looked liek that but Caucasins are kind off seperate and less related

    there is a 100,000 year old skull in Isreal it is teh oldest completely modern human skull and if anything it had a Caucasian shape its nose was not wide like sub Saharan Africans and the original Oceania mongliod people everything about it seemed caucasin

    here is the skull on top left is 100,000ybp skull op right is negriod skull bottom right is Mongloid skull bottom left is Caucasin
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