French citizenship [SPLIT from the username change thread]

[Germanicus]

Al-Frankawi simply means "The Frenchman" (a totally unoriginal username for a... Frenchman) in Arabic, there's nothing ambiguous in it. It's a way of making it sound a bit special. I also must admit that I like the Arabic language.




Maybe I'll change it in the future, but I don't now for what other name yet.

Being the son of an immigrant, do you consider yourself to be 100% French?

[Frigga]

Al-Frankawi should change his username to Nounours!

Just teasing!

[Mesrine]

Being the son of an immigrant, do you consider yourself to be 100% French?

Of course, I'm totally French. I was born and grown here, my maternal language is French, my eduction is French, etc. I don't see where is the originality in me. I just know more about Italy than my average compatriot.

Parisians like me (with foreign roots) are even more French than 100% old stock provincials. We truly feel French, while the "pure" Breton/Gascon/Savoyard/etc will identify with his region first.

[Electronic God-Man]

Parisians like me (with foreign roots) are even more French than 100% old stock provincials. We truly feel French, while the "pure" Breton/Gascon/Savoyard/etc will identify with his region first.

HA! Like a Paki in London feels more "British" than the "old stock" Englishman who identifies with his county first.

[Mesrine]

Al-Frankawi should change his username to Nounours!

Nounours will may be among the names considered.

HA! Like a Paki in London feels more "British" than the "old stock" Englishman who identifies with his county first.

LOL. So for you, a Paki in London is exactly like a Parisian of French-Italian (Italy being Romance of old Catholic culture, just like France) descent in France? Very pertinent comparison, man.

[Electronic God-Man]

LOL. So for you, a Paki in London is like a Parisian of French-Italian (Italian being Romance and Catholic, just like France) descent in France? Very pertinent comparison, man.

Your way of explaining your feelings of patriotism sounds much like the the only kind of patriotism that could be felt by a foreigner. It's not home-grown.

A comparison with a Paki in London is legitimate in this case despite the fact that you are half French and half Italian (if I am getting your background right). Any objection you might have to it is rather silly. You don't care about race, ethnicity, blood, religion, etcetera, remember? You do care about culture, but since you accept any other culture into France to be Frenchified, it hardly seems like much of anything to say that Italy also happens to be a Romance country.

[Mesrine]

Your way of explaining your feelings of patriotism sounds much like the the only kind of patriotism that could be felt by a foreigner. It's not home-grown.

Ridiculous statement. There is no such thing as a "home grown" French patriotic feeling. It has been imposed by centuries of Jacobinism, from Paris. The central power created modern France and also the French people, and in order to do so, it had to eradicate all local and regional cultures and languages.

BTW, I'm not even patriotic.

A comparison with a Paki in London is legitimate in this case despite the fact that you are half French and half Italian (if I am getting your background right).

You're getting it wrong, I'm totally French. The provenience of my paternal family is irrelevant, really. I don't have half-French and half-Italian nationalities.

So your comparison is not only illegitimate, but it's also ridiculous.

Any objection you might have to it is rather silly. You don't care about race, ethnicity, blood, religion, etcetera, remember?

I never expressed any objection to your "Londoner Paki", I asked you if you think a British Paki can be compared to me. Don't forget that you pretend to be a "European preservationist"* (LOL).

You do care about culture, but since you accept any other culture into France to be Frenchified

Assimilation is not about "Frenchifying" other cultures, but rather about destroying your original culture, in order to make it easier for you to absorb the French culture and become a real Frenchman.

I don't think you understand Jacobinism, or modern nationalism. Too bad, because you can't understand the history of France after 1789.

it hardly seems like much of anything to say that Italy also happens to be a Romance country.

You mean you don't see the differences between Italians and Pakistanis, the former being Romance Europeans, while the latter are South Asians? What a poor case of "European preservationist"** (re-LOL) you make, Soten.



* & **: You simply can't be a European preservationist, because you're American.

[Osweo]

I'm quite as European as you are, Parisian, and I accept him as kin. So there. The world's not as simple as you'd like it to be, and reality will come and bite your mad Jacobinerie on the arse soon enough.

[Mesrine]

I'm quite as European as you are, Parisian, and I accept him as kin. So there.

You're free to live in your own imaginary "white world", Mancunian.

The world's not as simple as you'd like it to be, and reality will come and bite your mad Jacobinerie on the arse soon enough.

Talking of reality, just watch a map of the world. The white man's countries are not united into a "European preservationist" empire. The world is not as simple as you'd like it to be. So if someone is mad and bitten on the arse by reality, it's you, and not in some hypothetic future, Osweo.

[Electronic God-Man]

I never expressed any objection to your "Londoner Paki", I asked you if you think a British Paki can be compared to me. Don't forget that you pretend to be a "European preservationist"* (LOL).

You mean you don't see the differences between Italians and Pakistanis, the former being Romance Europeans, while the latter are South Asians? What a poor case of "European preservationist"** (re-LOL) you make, Soten.

* & **: You simply can't be a European preservationist, because you're American.

Who said I was a "European preservationist"? You're on this forum and you're not "European preservationist" (apparently this means racialist to you). I'm on the forum why does that make me a "European preservationist"?

I'm an American preservationist.