Modesty vs. Immodesty: Your Thoughts?

[Frigga]

What is your criteria for modesty? What do you think is indecent in modern peoples behavior and conduct, and what do you think is modest? What do you think of those who behave in what you believe is immodest activities, or modest ones? What do you think of people who are not immodest themselves but who seem to approve of behavior you find immodest in other people?

[Tabiti]

For me modesty is a misunderstood virtue, meaning someone is too ashamed to show himself, his thoughts and desires as an individual. Arrogance on other side shows the same self confidence complexes, but expressed in the opposite way.

[Frigga]

What I find to be modest is to not expose yourself for attention from others merely to please some inner desire in your heart. This exposure can be physical, where you dress in a provactive way, or behavioral, where you throw yourself onto others seeking for their approval. Being modest is in my mind knowing that you are a worthy person in your own right, and not needing to have the approval of others to feel your own self worth. As far as how I view others who approve of what I feel to be immodest behavior, I do not respect them nearly as much as I would otherwise. But then I have to remember that others have differing criteria for modesty, which is a hard thing to do.

[Loki]

What I find to be modest is to not expose yourself for attention from others merely to please some inner desire in your heart. This exposure can be physical, where you dress in a provactive way, or behavioral, where you throw yourself onto others seeking for their approval. Being modest is in my mind knowing that you are a worthy person in your own right, and not needing to have the approval of others to feel your own self worth. As far as how I view others who approve of what I feel to be immodest behavior, I do not respect them nearly as much as I would otherwise. But then I have to remember that others have differing criteria for modesty, which is a hard thing to do.

Please clarify "expose yourself for attention". Give me a practical example. What exactly are you talking about?

[Frigga]

Please clarify "expose yourself for attention". Give me a practical example. What exactly are you talking about?

I am talking about dressing in public with your bosoms exposed, and wearing a pair of pants that is unbuttoned and unzipped so that your pubic area is barely covered. I witnessed that in a craft store earlier this year. I was shocked as to this 14 year old girl being allowed out of the house in such a state of immodesty. Wearing skirts that are dangerous to bend down in for threat of exposing your gentials to everyone passing behind you. Being in public and swapping spit with your lover in such a way that you're both cleaning each other's tonsils. That sort of thing is what I consider to be exposing yourself for attention.

[Tabiti]

Dressing provocatively is not immodesty, but lack of taste and sometimes intellect, imo.
I don't link modesty directly with style of clothing, but behavior.

[Absinthe]

Dressing provocatively is not immodesty, but lack of taste and sometimes intellect, imo.
I don't link modesty directly with style of clothing, but behavior.

Ditto

[Lutiferre]

Modesty is just as much a matter of personality as dress, but it takes it's expression both inwardly and outwardly, and that too in dress, in which people have the chance to outwardly express their greed for attention they do not deserve (for this, but maybe for other things which they then hide instead).

[la bombe]

I guess I have conflicted thoughts on modesty. In one way I think modesty can be admirable and an expression of one's respect for themselves and others, but on the other hand, I don't believe it's necessary for anyone to stifle himself based on someone else's ideas of what constitutes modest or immodest behavior. Obviously notions of modesty and decency are highly subjective and variable (there's a vast difference between standards of female modesty where I live and say, Saudi Arabia), so it's hard to prescribe one set of values for different people.

[Liffrea]

Personally I don’t consider myself modest or arrogant, a man should be confident in his own opinions and abilities and that confidence comes from a realistic assessment of both.