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One user named "Arsen_" opened this kind of Thread.
"Why some Georgians are so obsessed with Armenians?"
Obsessed? I'd say: don't like/hate.
1)Because they are stealing parts of our history!
2)Because they are stealing parts of our country (they have stolen Lorre and are trying to steal javakheti nowadays).
3)Because they have betrayed us many times during the history!
4)Because they are ungrateful!
5)Because they are liars!
6)Because they have big part in what happened in Abkhazia in 90s!
"Here is a quote of Galkovskiy, modern Russian writer:
Ибо «грузинская интеллигенция» (даже «знаменитая грузинская интеллигенция») это либо пустое множество, либо армяне. Грузин это тупой крестьянин, вор, бездельник, шут, но не интеллектуал. Даже хуже – это пролезший в интеллектуалы крестьянин, вор, бездельник или шут.
My partly translation:
...Georgian intellectuals are either empty place or Armenians... Georgian is a dumb villager, thief, lazybones, clown, but not an intellectual..."
So you called me and my ancestors "dumb villagers"??
Tell me what were your ancestors doing when mine were translating Gospel in X century?
What were doing your ancestors when mine were writing on their own language with their own alphabet in III BC???
What were doing your ancestors doing when Shota rustaveli wrote "pantera's skin" in XII century??
What were doing your ancestors when mine were were fighting for survival from XII BC (and we are still fighting)??
What were doing Your ancestors when mine fought for survival against 500 000 turks in Didgori in 1121???
what were doing your ancestors when in Georgia were murdered 100 000 humans for not refusing Christianity and taking Islam in 1225??
Ilia chavchavadze was a dumb villager?? Iakob gogebashvili was? Akaki wereteli was? The fact that Galkovskiy was uneducated doesn't mean that Georgians were not as well!
Aren't you interested why we hate Russia??
In XVIII we became allies. we had to fight against persians and osmals togather. We were attacked by those 2 empires all the time and even though we kept fighting they always outnumbered us 1 to 10. Even though we won many battles we couldn't carry on... And Russia showed up. We thought that Orthodox Russia would help us. But you didn't help us in any single battle even though you promised to... in 1770 totleben betrayed us in the last moment so we had to fight 20 000 turks alone (we had 4 000 men), we won that battle but couldn't begin new ones... In 1783 we signed treaty according to which Russia was a protector of Georgia, But Georgia kept its Independence. Even after that russians didn't help us. we had battles against north caucasian tribes... In 1795 Russians betrayed us again. 5000 georgians had to face 40 000 persians! We defeated them in first battle and persians were going home, but some armenian told them that we had only 5 000 men, so persians returned and attacked from flanks... We just didn't have enough men... battle was lost... Tbilisi was destroyed... Do you know why Russians didn't help us like they promised us to? Because They wanted Georgia to be Weakened, To capture it themselves and In 1801 Russian army came in Georgia and announced that Georgia existed no more... that it was part of Russian empire... There were many rebellions after that, but without any success...
In 1918 we became independent. So we were till 1921 when red army invaded us. We were attacked from black sea, Abkhazia, north Caucasus, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Turkey. Even though it was 80 000 trained soldiers (40 000 red army, 40 000 turkish army) against 30 000 Georgian volunteers, we kept fighting for 10 days, we defeated both sides several times, but we were horribly outnumbered so the government fled...
Russians gifted Tao-klarjeti to turkey, Lorre to - Armenia, Sainghilo to - Azerbaijan and some small territories to themselves...
In 1990s Russia had big part in what happened in Abkhazia. it were russian soldiers we were fighting against... In 2008 we had war in samachablo (so called "south ossetia").
I respect Armenia as it is an ancient country. The first country to adopt Christianity (as i know). Armenians Themselves are very loyal to to each other and they are Patriots... But like many other nations they have many defects as well...
P.S. To admins: Please don't close this thread just yet...
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