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    Quote Originally Posted by d3cimat3d View Post
    Prague culture just to the west of Kiev culture predates Kiev culture.
    Kiev culture: 2-5th century AD, Prague culture: 5-8th century AD

    Besides this map is wrong in some ways. Goths didn't come from Sweden through Poland, instead they followed the Danube from what is now Bavaria/Austria, this is supported by linguistics.
    Which linguists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    NATO entered Ukraine? WTF is going on there?!?!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pva5kBrruvk
    That's probably in Poland. See the car around 0:17, writing in the door is ZW, that's Polish for Military Gendarmerie. Then again there has been some serious troop reshuffling in Poland for last few days.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxHPAiPGAeE

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    Quote Originally Posted by d3cimat3d View Post
    No one knows who Tauri were exactly but most speculate they were western-most Circassians who crossed Kerch.

    Tauri being Turkic is just absurd that has no evidence except your faulty linguistics, which is most likely just a coincidence. What is more laughable you take it back even further and try to pass off Yamna culture as Turkic as well.... you try to act like the mainstream got it wrong but somehow you, the amazing Kipchak_Hakan figured it all out.
    Tauri meant "mountain people" or simply "highlander", the Tauri inhabited only mountainous regions of southern Crimea. Taurica meant "mountainous landscape". Tau in Turkic means "mountain". The Turkic suffix -r is denoting a "follower of a tribe" or simply a "tribesman". Also compare the Turkic substrate word in Celtic "tau-r" meaning "mountain". The probability of a coincidence is almost zero.

    Quote Originally Posted by d3cimat3d View Post
    Kipchak Hakan logic: Georgians call their land Sakartvelo, this must mean the Saka came from Georgia!!
    What a filthy own goal ^^

    სა- (sa-) +‎ ქართველი (k’art’veli) +‎ -ო (-o).

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/საქართველო#Etymology


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    Tauri meant "mountain people" or simply "highlander", the Tauri inhabited only mountainous regions of southern Crimea. Taurica meant "mountainous landscape". Tau in Turkic means "mountain". The Turkic suffix -r is denoting a "follower of a tribe" or simply a "tribesman". Also compare the Turkic substrate word in Celtic "tau-r" meaning "mountain". The probability of a coincidence is almost zero.


    What a filthy own goal ^^

    სა- (sa-) +‎ ქართველი (k’art’veli) +‎ -ო (-o).

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/საქართველო#Etymology
    So, what is the etymology of the Taurus mountains in Turkey itself dear?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_mountains

    The Taurus Mountains (Turkish: Toros Dağları, Ancient Greek: Όρη Ταύρου) are a mountain complex in southern Turkey, dividing the Mediterranean coastal regionof southern Turkey from the central Anatolian Plateau. The system extends along a curve from Lake Eğirdir in the west to the upper reaches of the Euphrates andTigris rivers in the east. It is a part of the Alpide belt in Eurasia.The Taurus mountains are divided into three chains from west to east as follows;

    • Western Taurus (Batı Toroslar)
      • Akdağlar, the Bey Mountains, Katrancık Mountain, Geyik Mountain

    • Central Taurus (Orta Toroslar)
      • Akçalı Mountains, Bolkar Mountains, Aladağlar, Tahtalı Mountain

    • Southeastern Taurus (Güneydoğu Toroslar)
      • Nurhak Mountains, Malatya Mountains, Maden Mountains, Genç Mountains, Bitlis mountain


    The bull was commonly the symbol and depiction of ancient Near Eastern storm gods, hence Taurus the bull, and hence the name of the mountains. The mountains are a place of many ancient storm-god temples.[1] Torrential thunderstorms in these mountains were deemed by the ancient Syrians to be the work of the storm-god Adad to make the Tigris and Euphrates rivers rise and flood and thereby fertilise their land.[2] The Hurrians, probably originators of the various storm-gods of the ancient Near East, were a people whom modern scholars place in the Taurus Mountains at their probable earliest origins.


    If Tau means mountain in Turkish, then why do you use the prefix Boz- for nearly every mountain you have named???

    Bulls-eye!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis View Post
    So, what is the etymology of the Taurus mountains in Turkey itself dear?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_mountains
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    Bull people?



    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis View Post
    If Tau means mountain in Turkish, then why do you use the prefix Boz- for nearly every mountain you have named???
    because boz means "grey". It has the same root with Turkic börü "wolf". Thats why Bozkurt "grey wolf", you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    Bull people?




    because boz means "grey". It has the same root with Turkic börü "wolf". Thats why Bozkurt "grey wolf", you know.
    I have no idea if it is bull people. I am just proving to you that your etymologies don't work, primarily because you are not a linguist. I have tried this game too, it was tempting, until I realized it was making stupid, and that was many ages before I started posting here...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudos...age_comparison

    The most common method applied in pseudoscientific language comparisons is to search two or more languages for words that seem similar in their sound and meaning. While similarities of this kind often seem convincing to laypersons, linguistic scientists consider this kind of comparison to be unreliable for two primary reasons. First, the method applied is not well-defined: the criterion of similarity is subjective and thus not subject to verification or falsification, which is contrary to the principles of the scientific method. Second, the large size of all languages' vocabulary makes it easy to find coincidentally similar words between languages.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Language_Theory

    The Sun Language Theory (Turkish: Güneş Dil Teorisi) was a Turkish nationalistpseudoscientific linguistic hypothesis developed in Turkey in the 1930s that proposed that all human languages are descendants of one proto-Turkic primal language. The theory proposed that because this primal language had close phonemic resemblances to Turkish, all other languages can essentially be traced back to Turkic roots. According to the theory, the Central Asian worshippers, who wanted to salute the omnipotence of the sun and its life-giving qualities, had done so by transforming their meaningless blabbering into a coherent set of ritual utterings, and language was born, hence the name.[1]

    Influences on the theory included:



    • a paper of the Austrian linguist Dr. Hermann F. Kvergić of Vienna entitled "La psychologie de quelques elements des langues Turques" ("The Psychology of Some Elements of the Turkic Languages")[3]

    The founder and first president of the Republic of Turkey, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, gave the theory official backing and material support.[4]
    Tenets[edit]

    As described in a 1936 The New York Times article on the curriculum of the newly opened School of Language, History and Geography of Ankara University:[2]
    claims that the Sumerians, being Turks, originating in Central Asia, all languages also consequently originated there and first used by the Turks. the first language, in fact, came into being in this way: Prehistoric man, i.e., Turks in the most primitive stage, was so struck by the effects of the sun on life that he made of it a deity whence sprang all good and evil. Thence came to him light, darkness, warmth and fire, with it were associated all ideas of time: height, distance, movement, size, and give expression to his feelings the sun was thus the first thing to which a name was given. It was "ag" (pronounced agh), and from this syllable all words in use today are derived. This, briefly, is the theory about the "sun language," and with the new conception of Turkish history it will be taught in the new Angora school.
    In short, based upon a helio-centric view of the origin of civilization and human languages, the theory claimed that the Turkish language was the language which all civilized languages derived from.[5]
    Some of the words provided with false Turkish etymologies through the practice of goropism were school, which was attributed to the Turkish word okul (school); God, attributed to the Turkish kut (blessing); Bulletin from belleten (to learn by heart); Electric from Uyghuryaltrık (shine).[6]
    According to linguist Ghil'ad Zuckermann, "it is possible that the Sun Language Theory was adopted by Atatürk in order to legitimize the Arabic and Persian words which the Turkish language authorities did not manage to uproot. This move compensated for the failure to provide a neologism for every foreignism/loanword."[7]
    History has made fools of you for quite some time... But you won't quit the habit of stupidity I guess...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Kiev culture: 2-5th century AD, Prague culture: 5-8th century AD
    The map you have posted has Prague 3-4th century AD, and Kiev 5th century.

    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Which linguists?
    http://www.kortlandt.nl/publications/art198e.pdf

    Gothic is closer to Upper German than to Middle
    German, closer to High German than to Low German, closer to German than to
    Scandinavian, closer to Danish than to Swedish, and that the original homeland of
    the Goths must therefore be located in the southernmost part of the Germanic
    territories, not in Scandinavia
    Also Goths were a sub-tribe of Marcomanni:





    Goths were nothing more than settlers for Germany, a trip down the Danube their ancestors would repeat many times over:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bessarabia_Germans
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transylvanian_Saxons

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    Quote Originally Posted by d3cimat3d View Post
    The map you have posted has Prague 3-4th century AD, and Kiev 5th century.
    Proto Praga-Korchak culture and Kiev culture ended in the 5th century.

    Interesting, but baseless theory. There are no Gothic archeological remains in the late antique Danube valley (except in the Northeastern and Eastern Carpathians from the other side)

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