Have more people died at the hands of Atheists, than believers?

[Crn Volk]

Communists and to a lesser degree Nazis, were/are Atheists. Therefore the millions who died at the hands of Soviet, Nazi, Polpot, North Korea, China etc. far exceed those killed by religious wars. What do you think?

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Of course, though I don't think the numbers game is a good justification. That kind of retarded thinking that assumes correlation = causality is the most braindead thinking of all, and is generally wht leftist retards use to push their agenda. Like pointing to japanese gun laws and saying that's why japanese have few murders - except japanese americans have just as few.

[Methmatician]

Were they killed for being believers? No. False cause fallacy.

[Crn Volk]

Of course, though I don't think the numbers game is a good justification. That kind of retarded thinking that assumes correlation = causality is the most braindead thinking of all, and is generally wht leftist retards use to push their agenda. Like pointing to japanese gun laws and saying that's why japanese have few murders - except japanese americans have just as few.

Yes, but atheists like to point out the many deaths due to religions as a barometer of their badness

[Also]

Were they killed for being believers? No. False cause fallacy.

Actually, many were killed and persecuted for being believers in various communist states. Yet right now Christians are persectued in North Korea and also China:

"Christians Urged to Pray for 33 People Facing Execution in North Korea for Connection With Missionary

South Korean papers reported last week that Kim Jong Un has ordered the deaths of 33 people found to have received money for building 500 underground churches from South Korean missionary Kim Jung Wook. Engaging in secret religious activities is a crime punishable by arrest and even public execution in the Pacific nation."

- http://www.christianpost.com/news/ch...ionary-115919/

Under the Khmer Rouge communist government in Cambodia:
"All religion was banned by the Khmer Rouge. Any people seen taking part in religious rituals or services would be executed. Several Buddhists, Muslims, and Christians were killed for exercising their beliefs"
"Ethnic Vietnamese, ethnic Chinese, ethnic Thai, and other minorities in the Eastern Highlands, Cambodian Christians (most of whom were Catholic, and the Catholic Church in general), Muslims, and the Buddhist monks. The Roman Catholic cathedral of Phnom Penh was razed. The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they regard as forbidden (ḥarām). Many of those who refused were killed. Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed. One former Khmer Rouge Commander, Comrade Duch, converted to Evangelical Christianity in the years after the regime fell."
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge

[Also]

Yes, but atheists like to point out the many deaths due to religions as a barometer of their badness

Religion is nowhere being a primary cause of homicide and when weighting things we should consider the good things religion brings like the long historic of charity and funding schools, universities, hospitals, orphanages etc... And wheter they admit it or not atheists have killed plenty of people in the past simply for being religious too. I've made a thread once related to that if you might want to check: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...s-Atheist-wars

[Methmatician]

Actually, many were killed and persecuted for being believers in various communist states. Yet right now Christians are persectued in North Korea and also China:

So what's the actual death toll?

[Longbowman]

I don't know for absolute numbers, but probably proportionately, yes.

[Also]

So what's the actual death toll?

Counting communist regimes alone 85 million ~ 100 million.

USSR -- 20 million

China -- 65 million

Vietnam -- 1 million

North Korea -- 2 million

Cambodia -- 2 million

Eastern Europe -- 1 million

Latin America -- 150,000

Africa -- 1.7 million

Afghanistan -- 1.5 million

Communist movements, parties not in power -- 10,000

In total, this is not far short of 100 million deaths at the hands of a single ideology.

http://www.thecommentator.com/articl...communism_kill

[Methmatician]

In total, this is not far short of 100 million deaths at the hands of a single ideology.

Communism is not a religion

http://www.thecommentator.com/articl...communism_kill

This counts the number of people killed under communist regimes. People were killed for various reasons. I'm looking for a number on how many were killed simply for having religious beliefs and nothing else.