Norwegian Prime Minister rejects Armenian invitation

[Tonuquq]

Honest question. Didnt Armenians kill/plan to kill Turks in Armenia (historical Armenia) just like Russians, Serbs, Romanians etc.. have done during their wars on Turks?

Keep yourself clean from Armenian lies of 'peaceful co-existence, no revolt and self-defence' my friend.

Armenians Aid Russians Against Turks. Tyro Herald, 12-10-1914.


Armenians Aiding Russians Besiege Turkish Town Van. Manitoba Free Press, 7 November 1914.


. Talat and Enver Pasa, right after the war broke out, in case Armenians side with the enemy, especially if they make hostile attempts against the Ottoman Army, they certainly warned that heavy precautions will be taken. But besides this, Armenians didn't fall behind from making hostile activities against the Turks, especially insisted on attacking Turkish Armed Forces. At the beginning, many Armenian soldiers, some Armenian officers, fled to Russia besides having an Armenian parliamentary as the head of them. These, joined to Armenian volunteer regiments together with the Armenians who crossed the Russian border. They committed barbaric attacks against Muslim folk on the Russian side by crossing the Turkish border. Armenian bandit gangs assaulted supply routes, messengers and reinforcements behind Ottoman front. The notables of Turkish goverment and military were not wrong about worrying for a large scale Armenian rebellion. This revolt really exploded in Van on April 1915.
Joseph Pomiankowski, Austro-Hungarian Empire, Military Attache, Istanbul

. Armenian fanatics crammed their community with absurd, utopian and absolutely perverted ambitions regarding the Armenian independence. These ambitions were impracticable, because nowhere and never in Ottoman Empire Armenians did constitute majority. Extremists became insolent, terrorized indiscriminately both Muslims and Christians. After the First World War broke out, they unleashed civil war.
Erich Feigl

. Armenians were the favored portion of the population of Turkey, or that in the great war, they traitorously turned Turkish cities over to the Russian invader. They boasted of having raised an army of 150.000 men to fight a civil war, then they burned at least 100 Turkish villages and exterminated their population. In Geneva, a plan has been made for the creation of the 'Armenian home' in Caucasian Turkey, a home that would require protection by some foreign power and be the prelude to new armed conflicts and ultimate atrocities.
John Dewey, The Turkish Tragedy, The New Republic Magazine, 12 November 1928

. In the beginning of fall 1914, when Turkey had not yet entered the war but was preparing to, Armenian volunteer groups began to be organized with great desire and pomp in Trans-Caucasia. In spite of the decision taken a few weeks before at the General Committee in Erzurum, the Dashnagtzoutiun actively helped the organization of the fore-mentioned groups and especially arming them to fight against Turkey.
Manifesto of Hovhannes Katchaznouni, Armenia's First Prime Minister, 1923, Bucharest

[Tonuquq]

Mr. Bishop,

It is already more than 20 days passed after you said you would "inquiry".

No answer why Armenian archives are kept closed yet ?

Arm. are allergic to the word 'archives' that's why as liars and falsifiers, they often use the argument that 'Turks erased the evidence from archives about the so-called genocide'. Following World War 1, Britain invaded Istanbul. Allies were not satisfied with the 1919-1920 military tribunals. That's why the CuP detainees were sent to exile in Malta. The British searched the archives for 3 years to find evidence regarding Arm. massacre allegations to punish the Turks in Malta but they failed to do so and 147 detainees were released. In other words, the Turks are already dismissed by court verdict.

. I regret to inform your Lordship that there was nothing there which could be used as evidence against the Turks who are at present being detained at Malta. No concrete facts being given which could constitute satisfactory incriminating evidence. The reports in question do not appear in any case to contain evidence against these Turks which would be useful even for the purpose of corroborating information already in the possession of his majesty's government.
R. C. Craigie, British Charge d’Affairs in Washington, Telegram to Lord Curzon, 13 July 1921

Also, the archives of Turkey have been open for over 40 years now.

. When I first came to these archives 40 years ago, it employed a few elderly gentlemen able to read the old script, and their cataloging went very slowly. The archives now has a large staff of catalogers, and it has made available an amazing variety of all sorts of important documents, including the files of the Ministry of the Interior and the Secret Police, the complete archives of Sultan Abdulhamid II’s Yildiz Palace, large amounts of secret correspondence stemming from the Young Turk period. The materials concerning Armenians have all been microfilmed, with Xerox copies made available in bound volumes in the reading room. Copies of these microfilms also were sent to the U.S. Library of Congress and other national libraries throughout the world.
Prof. Standford Shaw

There are approximately 150 million documents that span every period and region of the Ottoman realm in the stacks and vaults of the Ottoman Archives and in recent years, everybody from Armenian researchers, to German, Italian and Austrian historians, even BBC cameras have had access to research what they liked.

On the other hand, as you mentioned, Arm. archives are really closed and not open for international and independent academic study.

The Armenian community maintains a number of archives. The archives in Watertown, Massachusetts, contain repositories from the Dashnak Party, 'Dashnaksutiun, the Armenian Revolutionary Federation', and the First Republic of Armenia. The above, together with the archives of the Armenian patriarchate in Jerusalem and the Catholicosate, the seat of the supreme religious leader of the Armenian people, in Echmiadzin, Armenia, remain closed to non-Armenian researchers. Dashnaksutiun archives are also not available to those Armenians who do not tow the party and diaspora line. The only scholar who does not endorse the Armenian nationalist narrative who tried to work in the National Archives of Armenia, Yektan Türkyılmaz, was arrested without reason and eventually expelled.

. Some Armenian archives in the diaspora are not open to researchers for a variety of reasons. The most important ones are the Jerusalem Patriarchate archives. I have tried to access them twice and been turned away. The other archives are the Zoryan Institute archives, composed of the private papers of Armenian survivors, whose families deposited their records with the Zoryan Institute in the 1980s. As far as I know, these materials are still not cataloged and accessible to scholars.
Ara Sarafian, Arm. Historian

For a more detailed, academic paper written by a MA of Paris-Sorbonne University
http://www.dailysabah.com/opinion/20...ething-to-hide

Keep yourself clean from Armenian lies.

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Arm. are allergic to the word 'archives' that's why as liars and falsifiers, they often use the argument that 'Turks erased the evidence from archives about the so-called genocide'. Following World War 1, Britain invaded Istanbul. Allies were not satisfied with the 1919-1920 military tribunals. That's why the CuP detainees were sent to exile in Malta. The British searched the archives for 3 years to find evidence regarding Arm. massacre allegations to punish the Turks in Malta but they failed to do so and 147 detainees were released. In other words, the Turks are already dismissed by court verdict.

. I regret to inform your Lordship that there was nothing there which could be used as evidence against the Turks who are at present being detained at Malta. No concrete facts being given which could constitute satisfactory incriminating evidence. The reports in question do not appear in any case to contain evidence against these Turks which would be useful even for the purpose of corroborating information already in the possession of his majesty's government.
R. C. Craigie, British Charge d’Affairs in Washington, Telegram to Lord Curzon, 13 July 1921

Also, the archives of Turkey have been open for over 40 years now.

. When I first came to these archives 40 years ago, it employed a few elderly gentlemen able to read the old script, and their cataloging went very slowly. The archives now has a large staff of catalogers, and it has made available an amazing variety of all sorts of important documents, including the files of the Ministry of the Interior and the Secret Police, the complete archives of Sultan Abdulhamid II’s Yildiz Palace, large amounts of secret correspondence stemming from the Young Turk period. The materials concerning Armenians have all been microfilmed, with Xerox copies made available in bound volumes in the reading room. Copies of these microfilms also were sent to the U.S. Library of Congress and other national libraries throughout the world.
Prof. Standford Shaw

There are approximately 150 million documents that span every period and region of the Ottoman realm in the stacks and vaults of the Ottoman Archives and in recent years, everybody from Armenian researchers, to German, Italian and Austrian historians, even BBC cameras have had access to research what they liked.

On the other hand, as you mentioned, Arm. archives are really closed and not open for international and independent academic study.

The Armenian community maintains a number of archives. The archives in Watertown, Massachusetts, contain repositories from the Dashnak Party, 'Dashnaksutiun, the Armenian Revolutionary Federation', and the First Republic of Armenia. The above, together with the archives of the Armenian patriarchate in Jerusalem and the Catholicosate, the seat of the supreme religious leader of the Armenian people, in Echmiadzin, Armenia, remain closed to non-Armenian researchers. Dashnaksutiun archives are also not available to those Armenians who do not tow the party and diaspora line. The only scholar who does not endorse the Armenian nationalist narrative who tried to work in the National Archives of Armenia, Yektan Türkyılmaz, was arrested without reason and eventually expelled.

. Some Armenian archives in the diaspora are not open to researchers for a variety of reasons. The most important ones are the Jerusalem Patriarchate archives. I have tried to access them twice and been turned away. The other archives are the Zoryan Institute archives, composed of the private papers of Armenian survivors, whose families deposited their records with the Zoryan Institute in the 1980s. As far as I know, these materials are still not cataloged and accessible to scholars.
Ara Sarafian, Arm. Historian

For a more detailed, academic paper written by a MA of Paris-Sorbonne University
http://www.dailysabah.com/opinion/20...ething-to-hide

Keep yourself clean from Armenian lies.

yes. Armenians are the worst liers of the world. Their only aim is to get some money from Turkey.
They are very poor. But we are not their father. They can work harder and make more money for food.

[Musso]

yes. Armenians are the worst liers of the world. Their only aim is to get some money from Turkey.
They are very poor. But we are not their father. They can work harder and make more money for food.

So we lie about Genocide to get money? Doesn't make any sense. Some of the biggest Armenian Genocide advocates have a lot of money, and surely don't need money from Turkey.

[Tonuquq]

The centennial preparations are going strong and today, the descendants of survivors mourn and pray for the victims of the Armenian tragedy that happened a hundred years ago with sorrow.