Classify Welsh Comdedians

[Jackson]

Care to elaborate? Why do you think aboriginal Brits were light? If Celts and Germanic are light, so were did Dark Brits come from? From the pre-Celtic populations.



Really? I read some Romans sources that state that the Picts were short and dark. As for the Brythonic Celts, of course there were light types, but I also belive there were dark types. How to explain the quite high incidence of dark Brits in Wales and Western England?

Well yeah. This doesn't mean that the Picts were one or the other, rather both. You know an Irish bog body (can't remember the name, will look for it in a bit) from around the Roman period in Britain was 6"6'.

The darker phenotypes in Wales and the West are most likely due to the fact that the Brythonic peoples were darker than their Germanic counterparts on average, but you are looking at it too black and white. Sure there must have been a higher frequency of dark types among them, but this doesn't mean that they were all dark. Also, Germanic invaders would have had their own dark types as well, just less of them.

[Smaug]

Well yeah. This doesn't mean that the Picts were one or the other, rather both. You know an Irish bog body (can't remember the name, will look for it in a bit) from around the Roman period in Britain was 6"6'.

The darker phenotypes in Wales and the West are most likely due to the fact that the Brythonic peoples were darker than their Germanic counterparts on average, but you are looking at it too black and white. Sure there must have been a higher frequency of dark types among them, but this doesn't mean that they were all dark. Also, Germanic invaders would have had their own dark types as well, just less of them.

Yes, thank you. That's exactly what I was trying to tell that Australian girl.

[Bridie]

Care to elaborate? Why do you think aboriginal Brits were light? If Celts and Germanic are light, so were did Dark Brits come from? From the pre-Celtic populations.

There's no reason to believe that depigmentation, as it were, was never native to the British Isles and only a result of genetic mixing with Germanics. I'm not saying that it was a native physical characteristic though, just that there's no way of knowing either way now.

In any case, I wasn't challenging the idea that native Brits were dark in part, just the idea that blondism in the Isles came with Germanic migrations. Maybe it did, maybe it didn't. I think it's highly unlikely that fair skin and fair eyes came with the said migrants/invaders though.

Yes, thank you. That's exactly what I was trying to tell that Australian girl.

Why didn't you tell me that then? I wasn't trying to provoke you by asking why you made the assertion that you did, I was genuinely interested in knowing if you had some knowledge about the subject that I wasn't aware of. Seems not though. Disappointing.

[Graham]

[Smaug]

In any case, I wasn't challenging the idea that native Brits were dark in part, just the idea that blondism in the Isles came with Germanic migrations. Maybe it did, maybe it didn't. I think it's highly unlikely that fair skin and fair eyes came with the said migrants/invaders though.

Why didn't you tell me that then? I wasn't trying to provoke you by asking why you made the assertion that you did, I was genuinely interested in knowing if you had some knowledge about the subject that I wasn't aware of. Seems not though. Disappointing.

Maybe light features could already be present in the Isles before the Germanic invasions, but I guess they were not as strong as they became after Germanics set foot in Britain.

Many Roman sources describe natives as light, and many as describe them as dark. I just believe the average aboriginal Britishman was darker than his Germanic fellows that came from the East.

Wales and West England didn't suffer the same Germanic influence as East Britain did, and it is right in those areas (West) that most of the dark Brits come from.

[awyr dywyll]

I don't think that the aboriginal British were light featured. I am not saying they were wogs, but certainly they were not as light as the types brought by the Germanic invasions. .

Ancient writers described southern Britts as very similar to Gaul (that's a cross between Med and Nordid). Silures (southern Welsh) as similar to Iberians with dark hair. and Caledonians as very light, similar to Germans. So we can assume that population of Northern England and Scotland (future Picts) was depigmented in the mass. Besides that, Boadicea was with red hair and bog mummy of aristocrat (Clonycavan Man) lived in Eastern Ireland in 3 BC had red hair also. So hypothesis that all British Nordids arrived during German invasions, looks unrealistic.
Also, there's no evidence how looked Anglo-Saxons in reality. I don't think that they differed dramatically from native Britts.

I guess Richard Hammond is a good example of how pre-Celtic Brits looked like

Or there could be another scenario, Native Britts looked like James May. and Jezzas arrived on boats from Ireland and Hammonds arrived from Netherlands

[Smaug]

Ancient writers described southern Britts as very similar to Gaul (that's a cross between Med and Nordid). Silures (southern Welsh) as similar to Iberians with dark hair. and Caledonians as very light, similar to Germans. So we can assume that population of Northern England and Scotland (future Picts) was depigmented in the mass. Besides that, Boadicea was with red hair and bog mummy of aristocrat (Clonycavan Man) lived in Eastern Ireland in 3 BC had red hair also. So hypothesis that all British Nordids arrived during German invasions, looks unrealistic.
Also, there's no evidence how looked Anglo-Saxons in reality. I don't think that they differed dramatically from native Britts.


Or there could be another scenario, Native Britts looked like James May. and Jezzas arrived on boats from Ireland and Hammonds arrived from Netherlands

I never said that all the Nordid Brits came with the Germanic invasions, actually on my last post I said exactly the contrary. And Frisians came from Frisia... Netherlands.

[Awesomedy]

Rob Brydon: Paleo-Atlantid/Tronder.

[Tooting Carmen]

Atlantids

[Septentrion]

The indigenous (pre-Celtic) population of Britain is Atlantid and Paleo-Atlantid inspired. Celtic populations, mainly Brythonic Celts got great part of their look from these pre-Celtic peoples.

Fair characteristics like light eyes, skin and hair were introduced in the isles through the Germanic invasions (Anglos, Saxons, Frisians, Scandinavians...). And probably your father is some sort of Atlanto-Nordid, but not necessarily.

Skandonordid (and any other Nordid types) share a characteristic with the Atlantids, that is the fact that both have more progressive features, so yes, they can overlap a little.

Nonsense! The only thing that Germanic people brought was ash-blondism. Golden, red hair, blue eyes were present way before Anglo-Saxon invasion.