Speculative study on possible Illyrian haplogroups.

[Wrong]

Yamnayans were wogs. Accept it and move on.

Wrong. The component peaks up at 50% in modern-day Norwegians.

Yamnaya carried significant amounts of Northern admixture. They did have some CHG followed by EEF, but nonetheless they were mostly northern.
Unlike the almost-fully Natufian + North African and SSA affinity inhabitants of Greece back then.

[katniss]

Here is the study from Croatia, and pay attention to JAZ1 (Dalmatian sample):303044230_Preliminary_results_of_a_prehist oric_human_ancient_DNA_time_series_from_coastal_an d_hinterland_Croatia

I have no access to the study, but I found out map from the study on this forum.
Samples from Jazinka, Croatia (JAZ1) plot very close to Bulgarians, then Greeks. Albanians are close just as much as Hungarians.

This is the map:

Spoiler!

^^ Bronze Montenegrin sample from Gruda - pay attention where they plot, exactly on the Tuscan cluster where also Albanians plot.

I can't see anything, but even in the case you are right... is that prove anything?

[Skerdilaid]

I have no access to the study, but I found out map from the study on this forum.
Samples from Jazinka, Croatia (JAZ1) plot very close to Bulgarians, then Greeks. Albanians are close just as much as Hungarians.

This is the map:

Spoiler!

I can't see anything, but even in the case you are right... is that prove anything?

You must be blind, only couple Greeks are below Albanians there. She gravitates toward Albanian Cluster, that much is evident. Anyway, the map is off. Greeks generally don't plot exactly with Albanians, we are more northern than them, unless we are talking about Northern Greeks and Southern Albanians, plus Bulgarian Cluster is not that large. What does it prove? It proves that bronze age inhabitants of Montenegro and southern Croatia pretty much cluster with us, and that you and other South Slavs came from Carpathian mountains.

[Beit El]

TOLD ME ABOUT MY HAPLOGROUP. BUT HE IS LIKE IN HIS 80S OR 90S I THINK. HOPE HE'S OKAY

AFAIK Ken retired bro. Sorry to say.

[Voskos]

Good find bro, a greek beggar (merchant) in Thrace - rain's wet dream.

lel.Speaking of Thracians, they have nothing to do with Albanians and Greeks and I find it ridiculous when your blokes go around the internet claiming descent from them ,considering Thracian inscriptions are proven to be totally unrelated to both aforementioned languages:

Rolisteneas Nerenea tiltean ēsko Arazea domean Tilezypta miē era zēlta

ilasnletednlednenidakatroso
eba rozesasnēnetesaigekoa
nblabaēgn

ēuziē.....dele / mezēnai

[Voskos]

I don't have problems with them claiming any ancestry. But they are not from the Dardani tribe as the area was depopulated and retreated into north albania most likely. There is more connection with the Dardani and Albanians than any other tribe. This tribe has dozzens of times been linked to Albanians. Not my problem you got your head up your ass.

I dont understand your reply. What did the post you quoted -and my posts in general- have to do with Dardania?

[katniss]

You must be blind, only couple Greeks are below Albanians there. She gravitates toward Albanian Cluster, that much is evident. Anyway, the map is off. Greeks generally don't plot exactly with Albanians, we are more northern than them, unless we are talking about Northern Greeks and Southern Albanians, plus Bulgarian Cluster is not that large. What does it prove? It proves that bronze age inhabitants of Montenegro and southern Croatia pretty much cluster with us, and that you and other South Slavs came from Carpathian mountains.

What is the problem? You mentioned the study. This is the map from the study. It means you are a liar.
Here is the map:

..... exactly on the Tuscan cluster where also Albanians plot.....

Italo-Gaelic branch ofd R1b and J2a are the most frequent hg among Tuscans and Italians. These 2 hg are almost absent among Albanians.

There is no similarity in Y-DNA nor autosomal.

[DRUM]

Samples from Jazinka, Croatia (JAZ1) plot very close to Bulgarians, then Greeks. Albanians are close just as much as Hungarians.

Albanians plot over 2 times closer to it than Hungarians lol

[Skerdilaid]

What is the problem? You mentioned the study. This is the map from the study. It means you are a liar.
Here is the map:




Italo-Gaelic branch ofd R1b and J2a are the most frequent hg among Tuscans and Italians. These 2 hg are almost absent among Albanians.

There is no similarity in Y-DNA nor autosomal.

Dumb broad, that you were thick headed has been note a while back, but didn't know you're also fucking blind. What do ydna's have anything to do with autosomal plotting? We obviosly don't share any ancestry with Tuscans, but we plot similarity in such autosomal maps because we most likely carry similar components. Also the reason a Bronze age Illyrian from Montenegro plots with a modern Tuscan, duh!

[Skerdilaid]

lel.Speaking of Thracians, they have nothing to do with Albanians and Greeks and I find it ridiculous when your blokes go around the internet claiming descent from them ,considering Thracian inscriptions are proven to be totally unrelated to both aforementioned languages:

Who said that we do? We Illyrians bro, through and through