Albanians in the Greek army doing the albanian eagle

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Do you listen to yourself anytime. They should call you "THe Mother of all Justifications". Because you always bring up a "semi-valid reason" why people are killed or ethnically cleansed. The Albanian which survived his attack said that they only raised a flag and I am more inclined to believe them. Since the pattern are that Greece and some greeks have long history of racist attack and not only to Albanians.



4.6.2001: Afrim Salla, 15 years old from Albania, gets shot and loses the ability to move his legs, after -as Greek Police stated- the gun of the border guard fired by luck.
11.8.2004: Luan Berdelima, 36 years old, economical immigrand from Albania lost his life because he was unluck to face some macho greek locals.
23.9.2003: Vulnet Bititsi, 18 years old from Albania shoted and killed by border guards at Krystalopigi.
13.3.1999: Arben Vezi from Albania gets killed at Kozani by cop named Athanasios Kanavas.

Human Rights Watch has condmened "racist" Greek Police!. etc etc

You used as an example a guy that was killed because of football hooliganism. That could happen anywhere and should not be used as a proven fact of Greek persecution of Albanians. Even in Spain not that much time ago there was a fan of Deportivo de La Coruña who was beaten and stabbed to death and was thrown to a river. Crazy hooligans are not representative of one's population.

There are also 1 million Albanians in Greece, eventually some of them are criminals and eventually some of them get caught or killed by the police, like any other ethnic group including Greeks. Four Albanian deaths is hardly anything in one million and it shouldn't be used as a proven fact of Greek persecution.

[Hithaeglir]

I don't understand. Are we talking here about a country member of EU and NATO or we are talking about Ottoman Empire or the state of ISIS? Do you understand that today in Greece there is an Albanian minority of one million people arrived in Greece in the last 26 years? Can you make the distinction between nation and ethnos? Both words are in Greek. Or you are still continue with your first Constitution where is expressed clearly that greek is every orthodox?

Yeah as always you don't seem to understand anything.

Since you have such a hard time understanding it,reverse the scenario with Greek men serving in the Albanian army and chanting nationalist songs for example,they would get a military punishment,for sure.

5 years though if true,is too strecthed and extreme.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

I cannot believe this.. Here you have also one high profile Golden Dawner with a far older than Nazi sing. Ncnccn

Yes, I am aware that there are Golden Dawn members who sympathize with Nazism. Still they claim that they do the Olympic salute. Because of the II World War is hard to draw the line on which salute they are doing because they all look the same. Even in pre-Roman Iberia our tribes did that salute.

[Sideritis]

I wouldn't want foreigners to serve in the Albanian army either. Albanians will have Albanian sympathies over Greek sympathies and so shouldn't serve in the Greek military where loyalty is invaluable. That they allow them to serve at all is a big mistake to begin with. Things don't work as you want them to work. Stop being so emotional about it.

As matter of fact, there are people from ethnical greek minority or any other ethnical background serving in the Albanian army. They also serve in almost every public Administration institution. I see nothing wrong with it. I read an article few month ago, that during Hoxha regime a lot of Albania Secret Service ( Sigurimi) were ethnical greek. And they were very faithful.

We should not forget that Albanian territory is monitored among other from Italian and Greek military. We are allies.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

If you don't know, why you insist to partecipate in this discussion? Only an idiot want to discuss about something that he don't know.

Then you couldn't post anywhere because you're hardly aware of what is being discussed ever in any thread.

[Hithaeglir]

Yes, I am aware that there are Golden Dawn members who sympathize with Nazism. Still they claim that they do the Olympic salute. Because of the II World War is hard to draw the line on which salute they are doing because they all look the same. Even in pre-Roman Iberia our tribes did that salute.

The flag behind him is Olympic too.

[Dandelion]

I know you don't fuck with the army, and certainly not the Greek military. A Czech game developer of the Arma franchise (military similation games) had employees arrested for filming at the wrong locations in Greece.

Five years is a harsh punishment (not unusual for the military though). I do understand the outrage over performing these gestures of Albanian pride. Many Albanians have territorial claims over Greek land, that alone should have made it obvious to those soldiers that it was a risky thing for them to do.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

The flag behind him is Olympic too.

Look, I am not saying that Golden Dawn founding members or that Golden Dawn itself is not heavily inspired in national-socialism, because it is. Nevertheless Golden Dawn has adopted Greek symbols and paraphernalia and is very ethnocentric Greek.

[Laberia]

Then you couldn't post anywhere because you're hardly aware of what is being discussed ever in any thread.

You admitted that you don't know nothing. Why you continue? Want you want to prove? We all know, save some time to yourself.

[Sideritis]

Yes, I am aware that there are Golden Dawn members who sympathize with Nazism. Still they claim that they do the Olympic salute. Because of the II World War is hard to draw the line on which salute they are doing because they all look the same. Even in pre-Roman Iberia our tribes did that salute.

We have a say in Albania " you cannot disguise the Sun with a sieve". A political party which basically forms their program on nationalistic feeling.
Which sing SS song and are highly anti-semitist , create gangs to beat immigrants, have tons of NAZI supporters, do clearly an Olympic salute which have nothing to do with the narrative of their party program. Please don't be ridiculous.