i am ashame to be French

[crazyladybutterfly]

It's alright. I guess Germanics need to invade your lands again. But sadly, Germanics of today are Nordcucks. Our colonists would be bullied relentlessly by the locals and catalyse the conversions...

meh if you invade italy we d have a bigger problem with islam

[Wadaad]

This gives me a thread idea

[Tchek]

oh well it is ONLY 4000 people converting to islam every year

still weird

They look so dumb. They are just confused people.

[Wrong]

"Our country" would be apt here. No amount of LARPing can mitigate the fact that you are not Germanic and that your newfound pseudoidentity is out of the touch with reality.

This is not related to the thread by any means.

Why are you attacking her identity out of nowhere?

[cosmoo]

Well friend, she feels Norman and feels connection to Norman ppl, things like that are not always connected to genetics etc...

We should respect the identity what someone consider for him/herself, for example, who are you or me (or anyone else here) to say (for example) to Catalans; "you're full of bullshit, you're just Spaniards".

That would be ignorant, they feel they're Catalans, and half of them wants independence, nevermind of their genetics or whatever. Hope you get my point.

Što se mene tiče može se izjašnjavati i kao burek sa sirom, govorim o istorijskim činjenicama.

This is not related to the thread by any means.

Why are you attacking her identity out of nowhere?

Looks like we have different definitions of verb "to attack". I am merely correcting subjective interpretations which have no real basis. And lets not pretend that literally 90% threads on TA do not (d)evolve into discussions unrelated to original post.

[Cristiano viejo]

I'm afraid neither history nor genetics support your claim of large-scale Norse settlement of Normandy.
The fact that you are proudly displaying an alleged statement of Gange Rolv in your signature, a triplenigger who got himself banished from Norway for raiding his own land, makes your whole identity appear rather wewuz-y.
Having origins from Spain and other parts of France (which were never settled by Goths, by the way, only by their warrior elite), yet renouncing them, only enhances this even further.

Goths in Iberia and Gaul brought their families with them. This is known even in the moon.

[cosmoo]

Goths in Iberia and Gaul brought their families with them. This is known even in the moon.

They were of insignificant numerosity when compared to rest of the population.

[Ilma]

Just accept the fact that you are not Germanic and move on. Genetics totally mow down your claims, especially the one about "Septimania" being dominantly Gothic-descended. It is not, only ruling Gothic warrior elite settled there, insufficient to leave any trace, which is perfectly visible in paternal lineages of those parts.

I am not "offending historical persons", but merely pointing out the fact that you take pride in a non-commendable man, and moreover, that you are basing your identity on feudal lordship, not on actual ethnic distinction, which is beyond retarded. It would be the same as if I invented "Herzegovinian" identity based on the fact that my ancestors come from the parts which were (and still are) called Herzegovina because Herzeg Stjepan ruled them.
"Norman" identity is actually not recognized by anyone except you (and few other wewuzers, I reckon).

And unrelated to this discussion, yes, William was a bastard indeed. Normans (and I am talking about Norse-descended noblemen, not about your imaginary pseudoethnicity) were the iron fist of Vatican through whole Europe, carrying out pope's will at the expense of local populations (as they did in England, completely replacing and forcing into exile old Anglo-Saxon nobility and priesthood solely because they were not seen as fit by Catholic church).

I have never said Septimanians and Spanish ppl are Germanic predominantly, I said on the contrary there are a minority among them that you are denying without any proof, you dumbass.

Do you think I am a crazy Nordicist or something ?

Va byin t'en ché, fidtôpin.

[Cristiano viejo]

They were of insignificant numerosity when compared to rest of the population.

That has nothing to do with your previous claim.
In Iberia they were between 200 and 300.000, and for a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig while they did not mix with the local population, until the year 580 thanks to a law of the Visigoth king Leovigildo.

How do you think they reproduced?

[cosmoo]

I have never said Septimanians and Spanish ppl are Germanic predominantly, I said on the contrary there are a minority among them that you are denying without any proof, you dumbass.

Do you think I am a crazy Nordicist or something ?

Va byin t'en ché, fidtôpin.

Do you always flip out like this when being unable to lead a coherent discussion, playing victim and throwing "u misinterpreting me!!1" mantra around?

That has nothing to do with your previous claim.
In Iberia they were between 200 and 300.000, and for a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig while they did not mix with the local population, until the year 580 thanks to a law of the Visigoth king Leovigildo.

How do you think they reproduced?

Still (assuming your figure is actually correct) like a drop in the sea compared to surrounding populace, which clearly reflects in genetics.