Ad vocem J2 IEmperial moronism...

[Rethel]

Some J2tards on our forum, claim, that such Indoeuropean states
like Medo-Persian Empire, Macedonian Empire, Roman Empire aso,
are a product of J2 geniusness, regardlessing the fact, that it were
indoeuropean states, created by IEs. Their main retardic argument
is, that supposedly the majority of inhabitants were J2men - and the
fact, that they were conquered, means, that they did create above
mentioned powers. Why it is moronism? From three main factors:

1st. is very simple: these were IE states.
2nd. is also simple: for creating a state, you do not
have to be in majority, especially when the state is
created on the counquered land.
3rd. reason is also obvious, that such maps which
they have been meditating hours after hours, do
not show hg per capita, but propotionaly to local
population - more than that: on any such map J2
is not in total majority - tyhe more cannot be in
th the whole area. Not understanding the difference
is very moronic.

Btw, mnoronic is also trying to steal somebody;s esle
identity, at the same time totaly dispising own. There
certainly were J2 states - but not these ones.

Why are you ashamed of yourself J2men? Why?
Do you also suffer from I1-wannabeR1-syndrom?

On mentioned maps, the highest amount of J2 is actually
40% in small area of Caucasus. How then it could be the
the main factor profucing these Empires?

But to make the thing clear, I did count you.
And what we have?

Persian Empire: 35% of R* vs. 14% of J2.
Roman Empire: 37% of R* vs. 10% of J2.

So, I am asking: HOW?

[Kouros]

Do you have autism?

[Ülev]

IJ brotherhood forever



Iran I + J1 + J2 = 32%, R1a+R1b = 25%

still good, and remember that only noble elite came to small European peninsula (and to India) to civilize others

[Aspar]

Some J2tards on our forum, claim, that such Indoeuropean states
like Medo-Persian Empire, Helleno-Macedonian Empire, Roman Empire
aso, are a product of J2 geniusness, regarding the fauct, that it were
IE states, created by IEs.

Been of IE origin doesn't mean exclusively R1!

We now know that some other haplos were picked up by the IE's early on, when they started migrating from their supposed homeland north of the Black sea.

One of those haplos is E-V13, which was picked up either around the Black sea area or in today's Czech republic.

That's why you can find E-V13 even as far as Estonia and Finland, actually it is present in almost all of Europe!

My theory is that E-V13 came to Europe through Libia, and stayed for a while in Italy, where you can find a lot of diversity of this haplogroup!

Than it spread to the North and eventually was picked up by R1b IE's around the Czech republik.

From there, they moved together to the Balkan peninsula!

One of the supporters of this idea is Raf Ceustermans, enthusiast, volunteer and researcher who wrote "Argonauts of the West Balkans?"-Origins, spread and distribution of Haplogroup E-V13.

[Rethel]

This is not the thesis disscussed here.
If you do not know what I am talking about, why disscuss.

I am talking about concrete claims of concrete people from
here, and their claim is not about what you disscussed above.

[Aspar]

This is not the thesis disscussed here.
If you do not know what I am talking about, why disscuss.

I am talking about concrete claims of concrete people from
here, and their claim is not about what you disscussed above.

Okay okay, but I recall myself, I've seen a post of yours, claiming IE's were exclusively R1!

However I think they were mixed from the very beginning and probably had J2 as well!

The same applies to the claim that the above mentioned empires were J2 people in majority!

[Kriptc06]

IJ brotherhood forever



Iran I + J1 + J2 = 32%, R1a+R1b = 25%

still good, and remember that only noble elite came to small European peninsula (and to India) to civilize others

Have E1b1b blessing and helpo. count on our coalition

[Marmara]

Is j2 linked to Caucasus Hunter Gatherers? I think it is, and Proto Indo-Europeans had j2 from the beginning.

[Rethel]

Okay okay, but I recall myself, I've seen a post of yours, claiming IE's were exclusively R1!

Of course they were (the same as other hg were their own too!), and
this is allready proofed beyond doubt. But it is not the main point here.