Do Albanians have territorial pretensions on Slavic territories?

[The Illyrian Warrior]

It's not the church itself, but many of its clerics are influenced by radical nationalism.

It's interchangeable to be honest, in 19th century church was responsibility of feeding illiterate masses with extreme nationalism to the point of chauvinism, back than there was no proper institutions of policymaking or even less, media to do that, so church done that. Besides, have you followed church reaction about Kosovo status, they are extremely against any independence, not only that but say openly that Kosovo is historical land of Serbia, the myth you keep hearing from random serbs too.

[Moje ime]

j; you can't expect to see our smile especially towards Serbia.

It is mutual

[Wrong]

It's interchangeable to be honest, in 19th century church was responsibility of feeding illiterate masses with extreme nationalism to the point of chauvinism, back than there was no proper institutions of policymaking or even less, media to do that, so church done that. Besides, have you followed church reaction about Kosovo status, they are extremely against any independence, not only that but say openly that Kosovo is historical land of Serbia, the myth you keep hearing from random serbs too.

Again, it's nationalism. Not something attributed to religion.

Nationalism and religion are different things from one-another.

[Mingle]

Well they are ''extinct'' nation from classical times. Extinct in a sense nobody continued their name, but their genetics mainly survived in modern-day Albanians, who have most right to their legacy.

I wouldn't really say they are extinct. Albanians used to call themselves Arberesh but now call themselves Shqiptar (except for the ones in Italy that kept that name). That doesn't mean that the Shqiptars and Arbereshes are different people. The Albanians kept their language and genetics intact so they are their descendants like how the Greeks are the descendants of the ancient Greeks. But that doesn't mean Albanians can just lay claim on lands that were Illyrian once upon a time.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Again, it's nationalism. Not something attributed to religion.

Nationalism and religion are different from one-another.

Yet many wars have religion as primary trigger, you are confusing dogma with reality here I suppose......I know when you ask all religious leaders/or institution would say their religion calls for peace, but when back is turned you have among them most nationalistic bastards ever, just look at Burma, who you think fuels the nationalism there? Please leave the books, religious books becomes irrelevant, people are those who make, good or bad decisions/changes or those who made a religion in first place.

[Wrong]

Yet many wars have religion as primary trigger, you are confusing dogma with reality here I suppose......I know when you ask all religious leaders/or institution would say their religion calls for peace, but when back is turned you have among them most nationalistic bastards ever, just look at Burma, who you think fuels the nationalism there? Please leave the books, religious books becomes irrelevant, people are those who make, good or bad decisions/changes or those who made a religion in first place.

What about the times when our paternal ancestors peacefully wed Serbian brides?

We all sure have some Serbian female ancestors somewhere along our maternal lines. It's normal for two neighbors.

I mean, we have a half Albanian/Serb here in this very forum with Albanian father and Serbian mother. Her parents were surely in pure love with one-another.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

What about the times when our paternal ancestors peacefully wed Serbian brides?

This so unnecessity point you brought up lol, but anyways, you honestly think you could have relaxing relation like we had (supposedly we had before)? I highly doubt.

First of, before people didn't had national consciousness like we have today, and second, back then we were related religiously one with another, people may now say, well for sake of good relations, let's forget this past 200 years and go back to your roots (previous religion), that's unlikely to happen for many reasons, but I name the two why is unlikely, 1. erase our past is not healthy for our society and nation, 2. no one will guarantee that this region would have a long lasting peace or stop any attempt of assimilation like has been done in middle age.

[Kouros]

I don't think they do, but I think Kosovo was initially Albanian, and is Albanian as of now, regardless if other countries/governments choose to 'recognize' it. I don't support anything Balkan governments do because they are sleazy and manipulative and I think everyone knows this...

[Kelmendasi]

I wouldn't really say they are extinct. Albanians used to call themselves Arberesh but now call themselves Shqiptar (except for the ones in Italy that kept that name). That doesn't mean that the Shqiptars and Arbereshes are different people. The Albanians kept their language and genetics intact so they are their descendants like how the Greeks are the descendants of the ancient Greeks. But that doesn't mean Albanians can just lay claim on lands that were Illyrian once upon a time.

And do you think that Kosovo should be Independent or that it should become part of Serbia again?

[Mingle]

And do you think that Kosovo should be Independent or that it should become part of Serbia again?

It's already independent and mainly Albanian so I guess it would make more sense for it to stay that way.