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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackson View Post
    Well, if they were still speaking a form of German today, and had culture and genes to go with it then we would.

    Well English can be regarded as a German language, if you take only the broad definition (in which pretty much all West Germanic languages are included).



    English is a Germanic language by excellence, closest Frisian but also Dutch and Low German. Actually German shares 60% of its vocabulary with English. According to University of Oslo ( Norway) professor Jan Terge Faarlund believes that English is more closely related to the Scandinavian languages especially Norwegian. He argues that because Old English borrowed significant amounts of vocabulary and grammar from Old Norse when England was under Viking rule. Old Norse essentially replaced Old English as the language transitioned into Middle English. He said that Norwegian is closer to English than Danish or Swedish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smaug View Post
    Egland is Celtic land in denial.
    No, Austria are Slavs and Huns in denial. The English are the toughest of all Germanic people. They conquered the entire planet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    25% - 30% of the Welsh have Germanic Y-DNA.
    Do you know how much Germanic Y-DNA Wallonia has?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    No, Austria are Slavs and Huns in denial. The English are the toughest of all Germanic people. They conquered the entire planet!
    You can be an honourary Anglo Septentrion. Tell these Huns what's what!
    Spoiler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    English is a Germanic language by excellence, closest Frisian but also Dutch and Low German. Actually German shares 60% of its vocabulary with English. According to University of Oslo ( Norway) professor Jan Terge Faarlund believes that English is more closely related to the Scandinavian languages especially Norwegian. He argues that because Old English borrowed significant amounts of vocabulary and grammar from Old Norse when England was under Viking rule. Old Norse essentially replaced Old English as the language transitioned into Middle English. He said that Norwegian is closer to English than Danish or Swedish.
    English is, of course, a Germanic language. No argument there. But it has far more Romance influence in terms of vocabulary compared to any other Germanic language, and it's not even close. It's really a form of hyperbole to suggest that English is something other than Germanic. That tends to happen because English is quite an outlier among Germanic languages in this respect. However, there can be no serious argument that English should be classified as anything other than Germanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    English is, of course, a Germanic language. No argument there. But it has far more Romance influence in terms of vocabulary compared to any other Germanic language, and it's not even close. It's really a form of hyperbole to suggest that English is something other than Germanic. That tends to happen because English is quite an outlier among Germanic languages in this respect. However, there can be no serious argument that English should be classified as anything other than Germanic.
    Dutch and Flemish which are sister languages also have many Latin or Romance-derived words. Should they also be called Romance now? What nonsense do people come up with? Do you how many words in Flemish comes from French by the way? In England it was mostly Normans who brought the largest French influence. Likewise, there are many English words that French use everyday now, should we also call French a Germanic language?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anglisc View Post
    Do other germanic countries view england as a germanic country?
    other Germanic Countries probably don't even consider themselves Germanic..let alone England

    Nordisch-Westisch or Westisch mit Nordische einschlag
    In other words: Atlantid type

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smaug View Post
    Egland is Celtic land in denial.
    except east Anglia, they're the Germanic settlers center of genetic influence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackson View Post
    Well it was formed as a Germanic land with some Celts in it, and some mixed people.
    Actually Wales has Germanic ancestry, speaks a Germanic language and isn't all that different from it's neighbors. Maybe the Welsh are actually Germans in denial?
    wtf, Welsh is celtic, not germanic, way closer to irish or even more so to ancient Gaulish (which was COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to german, and less so to Latin and even less to to Gaelic)
    also its the other way around, England is mostly celtic genetically (except the extreme east)

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    England is as much a Germanic country as Russia is a Slavic country, in other words, these countries essentially have absorbed qualitatively other elements which have radically and fundamentally changed them.

    By the way that's why both nations managed to create greatest empires unlike other Germanic and Slavic nations who inherently are not capable to do anything like that.

    Because pure Germanics and Slavics can't handle and tolerate other peoples and lead any flexible policy but genocide and forced assimilation. Like for examples pure Slavic Poles whose troops and garrisons once stood in Moscow, Berlin and Vienna and they had hundred times more chances than the Russians to create the greatest Eastern European empire but they failed because of their pathological desire to "polonise" and "catholicise" all around.

    Or compare for example how differently behaved the English and "pure Germanic" Germans in Africa. Where the English managed to find some common ground with the natives and some formula of coexistence, there Germans failed and just shot down packs of the natives in unsuccessful attempts to create some sort of order.

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