Some 500,000 Ukrainians could quit Poland's labor market in favor of Germany

[Mingle]

Ukrainians should only be allowed to settle east of the Elbe, but not to enter the "Altreich" ("Altdeutschland").

I don't think people in the real world care about that anthro stuff. They'll most likely be settling west of the Elbe as that's where living standards are higher and where most migrants generally tend to settle.

But if it means anything, many will be going to southeast Germany (Bavaria), its technically west/south of the Elbe, but has a similar genetic/migration history to northeast Germany.

[Mingle]

But Ukranians are indigenous only to areas east of the Elbe:

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukranen

Those are West Slavs who have a similar name by coincidence. The East Slavic Polesians are not the same as Poles from Poland.

Though I guess you're probably joking.

[Dandelion]

Those are West Slavs who have a similar name by coincidence. The East Slavic Polesians are not the same as Poles from Poland.

Though I guess you're probably joking.

Ukrainians are East Slavs who underwent some Polish influence, so they're already partly West Slavic-influenced. Might as well Westernise them some more.

[Peterski]

Those are West Slavs

But plot genetically with Ukrainians, as this Germanized Lower Sorb shows:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...Dmatch-results

Some Upper Sorbs also plot with Ukrainians, but some are more western-shifted.

PS:

Lower Sorbs are in Brandenburg, Upper Sorbs in Saxony.

Official genetic studies only tested Upper Sorbs so far.

[Ülev]

German Rethelites in danger! They will be flooded by Lissyi's eastern clade of R1a


map from here: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...DNA-haplogroup

[Incal]

Is there still space in Germany? Wow

[Mingle]

German Rethelites in danger! They will be flooded by Lissyi's eastern clade of R1a


map from here: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...DNA-haplogroup

Interesting how much more diversity R1a has in Europe compared to Asia. Probably has a lot to do with the Asian R1a clades being less extensively tested.

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[Mingle]

But plot genetically with Ukrainians, as this Germanized Lower Sorb shows:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...Dmatch-results

Some Upper Sorbs also plot with Ukrainians, but some are more western-shifted.

PS:

Lower Sorbs are in Brandenburg, Upper Sorbs in Saxony.

Official genetic studies only tested Upper Sorbs so far.

The Sorbs are probably survivors of isolated Slavic populations that didn't mix with Germans. The Polabian Slavs of the Middle Ages were probably slightly more western-shifted than Poles.

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[Artek]

The Sorbs are probably survivors of isolated Slavic populations that didn't mix with Germans. The Polabian Slavs of the Middle Ages were probably slightly more western-shifted than Poles.

One can't say that for sure without aDNA, although some slavic tribes from he northwest are considered to have asimilated remaining Germanic inhabitants (see Warini:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warini).

And also - depends on Poles we are talking about. Masovians - easily, I think. Poles from Greater Poland? I am skeptical.

[Podlachian]

3mln-500k=2.5mln still...