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Thread: Udmurts, white or not?

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    Well they are a cool nation to me and i have heard about their gingerism so i guess they are white but again the term is meaningless imho

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    Idea for a new thread: who are whiter, Udmurts or Iberians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chociprasa View Post
    "White" = the amount of Nordid admixture one has.
    Actually white / Northern European admixture peaks in Northeast Europeans. In HarappaWorld, the Northern European component is even called "NE Euro": https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...765nU4f_krOdd4.

    (white (NE Euro);wog + churka + sand nigger + curry nigger (Mediterranean + Caucasian + SW Asian + Baloch + S Indian);mong (Siberian + SE Asian + American + Beringian);population;dataset)
    80;14;7;finnish;1000genomes
    72;27;0;lithuanian;behar
    64;33;2;belorussian;behar
    64;27;9;russian;hgdp
    64;31;6;russian;behar
    61;31;8;mordovian;yunusbayev
    58;38;1;ukranian;yunusbayev
    53;46;0;orcadian;hgdp
    53;47;0;utahn-white;hapmap
    52;47;0;n-european;xing
    51;49;0;british;1000genomes
    51;48;0;slovenian;xing
    51;48;0;utahn-white;1000genomes
    50;26;24;chuvash;behar
    49;49;1;hungarian;behar
    42;57;0;french;hgdp
    42;56;1;serbian;harappa
    36;61;1;romanian-a;behar
    36;61;2;bulgarian;yunusbayev
    35;57;6;singapore-indian-d;sgvp
    33;66;0;spain-basc;henn2012
    33;67;0;basque;hgdp
    32;67;0;spaniard;behar
    31;67;0;spaniard;1000genomes
    29;70;0;italian;hgdp
    27;9;63;selkup;rasmussen
    24;74;0;tuscan;hapmap
    24;75;0;tuscan;hgdp
    24;71;3;urkarah;xing
    24;75;0;tuscan;1000genomes
    22;7;71;ket;rasmussen

    The table above is missing Udmurts, but they would probably rank around the same as Chuvashes, or about as white as Brits. Italians are about as white as Selkups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimean View Post
    Stalin was perfect at that historical moment. The tsarist government surrendered Russia to Western capital, Trotsky in general was a top-level scum and a Zionist, would have killed the Slavs, and sold the resources and territories to the West, and then they would take care of the rest of Europeans (they already care).
    But Stalin did not have time to finish everything to the end, he was killed. Venal propaganda continues to blacken his name. And we are now "enjoying" the power of his enemies, the Zionists and international capital. On the agenda is the destruction of the white race and the "optimization" of an extra (of course, white) population. A miracle must take place for the white race to be saved.
    But you continue to hate him and all of Russia. I no longer talk about this topic.
    Stalin was no different. Under him at least 40 million Russians died.
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    Udmurts are white, something like two thirds, but they are also around one third Mongoloid.
    But now lets listen to this cute Udmurt singer:

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    Quote Originally Posted by chociprasa View Post
    "White" = the amount of Nordid admixture one has.
    "White" usually equals typical Northern and Central European looks plus cultural (only) Christian tradition and secular-humanist libertarian scientific based worldview.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    If Toothing Carmen considers Pakis as White or Caucasoid, then how much more the Urdmurts!
    Racially, Pakistanis and Northern Indians (not counting the Veddoid mixed ones) are racially Caucasoid, despite not having fair-skin. This has nothing to do with TootingCarmen.

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    whiter then some Sicilians and Greeks, sure they may have a drop of asian in 'um but its really nothing compared to the really dark south euros, some of which are practically turks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy Freedy View Post
    Udmurts are white, something like two thirds, but they are also around one third Mongoloid.
    But now lets listen to this cute Udmurt singer:
    actually from what I've seen in racial composition charts and the like, they're more like 3/4-4/5 european and 1/5-1/4 asian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ymyyakhtakh View Post
    Actually white / Northern European admixture peaks in Northeast Europeans. In HarappaWorld, the Northern European component is even called "NE Euro": https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...765nU4f_krOdd4.

    (white (NE Euro);wog + churka + sand nigger + curry nigger (Mediterranean + Caucasian + SW Asian + Baloch + S Indian);mong (Siberian + SE Asian + American + Beringian);population;dataset)
    80;14;7;finnish;1000genomes
    72;27;0;lithuanian;behar
    64;33;2;belorussian;behar
    64;27;9;russian;hgdp
    64;31;6;russian;behar
    61;31;8;mordovian;yunusbayev
    58;38;1;ukranian;yunusbayev
    53;46;0;orcadian;hgdp
    53;47;0;utahn-white;hapmap
    52;47;0;n-european;xing
    51;49;0;british;1000genomes
    51;48;0;slovenian;xing
    51;48;0;utahn-white;1000genomes
    50;26;24;chuvash;behar
    49;49;1;hungarian;behar
    42;57;0;french;hgdp
    42;56;1;serbian;harappa
    36;61;1;romanian-a;behar
    36;61;2;bulgarian;yunusbayev
    35;57;6;singapore-indian-d;sgvp
    33;66;0;spain-basc;henn2012
    33;67;0;basque;hgdp
    32;67;0;spaniard;behar
    31;67;0;spaniard;1000genomes
    29;70;0;italian;hgdp
    27;9;63;selkup;rasmussen
    24;74;0;tuscan;hapmap
    24;75;0;tuscan;hgdp
    24;71;3;urkarah;xing
    24;75;0;tuscan;1000genomes
    22;7;71;ket;rasmussen

    The table above is missing Udmurts, but they would probably rank around the same as Chuvashes, or about as white as Brits. Italians are about as white as Selkups.
    well thats only if we are counting only the northern euro, most modern southern euros have outside admixture from africa and the middle-east, but central and NW euros have some admixture from a more ancient population in those regions that they share with the italians and spaniards and such. So I'd say however much EEF they have should count as 3/4 for ranking whiteness purposes if we wanted to do this silly thing properly

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