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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainmurcury View Post
    Watch the damn video for christ sake!
    Where do you see Hurrian samples on Davidski's coordinates list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    Where do you see Hurrian samples on Davidski's coordinates list?
    I can get this guy to send me the samples, or you can mail him! He's legit! And he's pakistani, not iranian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seya View Post
    no they do not
    Now i'm not sure if that women on your profil pic is you. But if it is, you really look like you're from the romani people. Are you a gypsie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainmurcury View Post
    I can get this guy to send me the samples, or you can mail him! He's legit! And he's pakistani, not iranian.
    Please do. Get him to send you the samples so that I can use them as a target and reference as well. I'm curious to see.

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    > 1: The hurrians were an ancient people that lived in anatolia. Which were also theorized by many that they may have been the ancestors of the kurds. But it turns out that the hurrians derived their ancestry from Hajji firuz sites from the northern sites of iran, which mostly were inhabited by Chalcolithic iranians.

    Cool!

    > 2: Yamnaya were darker pigmented compared to contemporary northern europeans.

    I see.

    > We've this gene called"OCA2" which what produced melanin in our eyes, hair color, and so on. In scandinavia for example, there is less sun, and less d Vitamin, which is a pretty important factor to produce melanin in the body. When lack of melanin occurs, it produced blonde children, which now has turned into a genetically thing now.

    Disagree. The PaleoAtlantids came to Scandinavia much earlier than Nordids. The latitude and lack of sun didn't turn them blonde and heavily depigmented. Nordids developed blonde hair, blue eyes and pale-fair skin at a lower latitude towards the southeast around the Steppe and around West Siberia. Only later did they move towards Northern Europe. Depigmentation in the Nordids' case is through strong sexual selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader View Post
    > 1: The hurrians were an ancient people that lived in anatolia. Which were also theorized by many that they may have been the ancestors of the kurds. But it turns out that the hurrians derived their ancestry from Hajji firuz sites from the northern sites of iran, which mostly were inhabited by Chalcolithic iranians.

    Cool!

    > 2: Yamnaya were darker pigmented compared to contemporary northern europeans.

    I see.

    > We've this gene called"OCA2" which what produced melanin in our eyes, hair color, and so on. In scandinavia for example, there is less sun, and less d Vitamin, which is a pretty important factor to produce melanin in the body. When lack of melanin occurs, it produced blonde children, which now has turned into a genetically thing now.

    Disagree. The PaleoAtlantids came to Scandinavia much earlier than Nordids. The latitude and lack of sun didn't turn them blonde and heavily depigmented. Nordids developed blonde hair, blue eyes and pale-fair skin at a lower latitude towards the southeast around the Steppe and around West Siberia. Only later did they move towards Northern Europe. Depigmentation in the Nordids' case is through strong sexual selection.
    Well it is true with the Sexual Selection. Because the vikings prefered blonde women, but still how do you think the recessive gene like "Blonde hair" originate from.It makes sense when you think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    Please do. Get him to send you the samples so that I can use them as a target and reference as well. I'm curious to see.
    Hurriansamples.JPG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainmurcury View Post
    Well it is true with the Sexual Selection. Because the vikings prefered blonde women, but still how do you think the recessive gene like "Blonde hair" originate from.It makes sense when you think about it.
    The Vikings came later, and probably were not the most depigmented. The depigmentation genes originate from mutations, which were then disproportionately selected for and spread in the population. I don't know if they're all dominant or recessive, probably a mixture of both, but are often said to be recessive. I can't confirm that, and I doubt it. Depigmentation was accelerated further during a time 10-15,000 years ago, I don't remember exactly when, when temperatures dropped very low and survival became harsher, and blonde-red hair and blue-green eyes were strongly selected for because the men could not afford to "save" multiple women and so selected for these traits. This occurred throughout Europe, the Steppe, and West-Central Siberia, into Mongolia even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainmurcury View Post
    I asked him, and he said he was 100 % iranian. But maybe he has some caucasian, like ciracassian, georgian that has given his physical appearance. But even the majority of those caucasian ethnicities are dark haired!
    yes you're right they looks kinda Laz-Georgian-Circassian or Checen to me. You're right majority of Caucasus ethnicities are dark haired.But Caucasians has Lightest Groups and Ethnicities in Middle East. Probably Pigmented Armenoids-Alpines-Pontids-Meds be found in Caucasus. That's why they gives Caucasus vibe to me. but first guy gives me iranian vibe also. Because first guy Similar to Sardar Azmoun.


    I think the Caucasus is more suitable for their phenotypes than Iran.
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    Yes i'm aware that the vikings came later, but i just wanted to point out that the attractiveness of blonde girls, did have a valid reason why the blonde genes went on. The SCH were themselves according to some sources dark skinned, and blue eyes. But there is no valid approval that the lattiude of the climate at that those times had any ocassion on why some inhabitants got fair traits. I guess it is mostly from a biological perspective they're looking from. There is some theory's that blue eyes came from the Black sea, which gives sense, since it was spotted on the CHG.

    https://www.georgianjournal.ge/socie...ea-region.html

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