Classify the phenotypes of Pothwaris (Northren Punjabis)

[Bandesha]

cultural dress and grooming can make people look "iranic" or indian

beard with cultural dress can make many look "iranic"



here is muslim jat from india with muslim uniform (beared + culutral dress)

here is muslim jatt molvi

Maulana Tariq Aziz Bajwa



he is cousin of army man asim saleem bajwa

and asim bajwa look like indian goldman due to typical indian pornstache





but saem asim bajwa can look "psuedo iranic" if he start wearing muslim uniform

[Avicenna]

An again what I want to say is compare your pic in your first post with those in your above 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th pics they dont look so much like your original pic of Pashtuns in Afghanistan.

This one

The Pak pashtuns I posted look quite similar to these ones ^ . But why are you so suprised they look different ? Pashtuns from Pakistan and afghans can look quite different , the latter seems to always lack south Asian phentypes ( mostly ) whereas the former can have types similar to their neighbours , especially in places adjacent to Indo Aryans .

[turbosat]

That's fine but I'm showing you group photos and videos ( posted earlier ) of afghan villagers etc . Anybody can post very dark atypical looking folks . I don't know the ethnicity of these people either . Btw I just found out that there is a neighbourhood in Kabul that some afghans come from , they are descended from Indians who came as musicians , workers etc ( kinda like gypsies but not exactly like them ) . One example is this famous singer who I always suspected had something foreign in him



Can he pass as Punjabi ?

Who is the guy third from last ?

I think the above guy could pass as a Punjabi, but I think more so from certain castes than others. Probably he is actually darker than he looks in that pic?
Third guy I think was a journalist or government spokesman or some other government official. He was posted in the past on Anthroscape.

If we dont post any dark ones, then anyone can keep writing Afghans dont have any dark ones. Also we can find more dark ones in groups or good number of them in groups as well.

If some Afghans are mixed with Indians (many could be from distant past not recently, we cant say timeframe without detailed genetic tests on such people), then many more others could have mixed in from other distant places (far back in time, not recently) as well to give the many lighter ones that you now have.

[Avicenna]

An again what I want to say is compare your pic in your first post with those in your above 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th pics they dont look so much like your original pic of Pashtuns in Afghanistan.

This one

Also do you think all Kurds look similar to turks? And they can't have dark types similar to dark pashtuns ? Because if I go on Google images and search Kurds I can find it in abundance , but I know , watching wedding videos , people in real life social media , those dark types are exaggerated on Google images .

[Avicenna]

I think the above guy could as a Punjabi. Probably he is actually darker than he looks in that pic?
Third guy I think was a journalist or government spokesman or some other government official. He was posted in the past on Anthroscape.

Yeah he very dark and stands out with his peers . But the nation loves him and his voice ( it's quite good not gonna lie lol) . Afghans being racist is a myth and overexaggerated imo .

[Avicenna]

I think the above guy could as a Punjabi. Probably he is actually darker than he looks in that pic?
Third guy I think was a journalist or government spokesman or some other government official. He was posted in the past on Anthroscape.

Can I please get the sources for those folks you posted please ? Im honestly curious about their ethnicity and origins . The girl who is a journalist I've seen personally in England lol. She looks bengali to me affff

[Avicenna]

I think the above guy could as a Punjabi, but I think more so from certain castes than others. Probably he is actually darker than he looks in that pic?
Third guy I think was a journalist or government spokesman or some other government official. He was posted in the past on Anthroscape.

Afghans who look like those folks you posted ( most are Dari speaking afghans not pashtuns ) usually get told they look like those people from the neighbourhood ( kharabod I think it's called ) . Honestly found this out recently by my father no joke

[henry007]

cultural dress and grooming can make people look "iranic" or indian

beard with cultural dress can make many look "iranic"



here is muslim jat from india with muslim uniform (beared + culutral dress)

here is muslim jatt molvi

Maulana Tariq Aziz Bajwa



he is cousin of army man asim saleem bajwa

and asim bajwa look like indian goldman due to typical indian pornstache





but saem asim bajwa can look "psuedo iranic" if he start wearing muslim uniform

They also need to have lighter skin, thinner noses, wider foreheads and slightly sharper feautures.






These two guys will never pass, and only as SSA-admixed arabs or sindhi/siddi admixed balochs, or heavily south asian looking afghans.




THis guy is another case though, his nose doesnt seem so broad and he got smaller eyes + wider forehead combo, so he at least would pass amongst pashtuns, unlike the others that have more fat in their heads, wider and thicker noses and slightly shorter faces

[Avicenna]

I think the above guy could as a Punjabi, but I think more so from certain castes than others. Probably he is actually darker than he looks in that pic?
Third guy I think was a journalist or government spokesman or some other government official. He was posted in the past on Anthroscape.

If we dont post any dark ones, then anyone can keep writing Afghans dont have any dark ones. Also we can find more dark ones in groups or good number of them in groups as well.

If some Afghans are mixed with Indians (many could be from distant past not recently, we cant say timeframe without detailed genetic tests on such people), then many more others could have mixed in from other distant places (far back in time, not recently) as well to give the many lighter ones that you now have.

That's the thing , people from the neighbourhood would get looked down in Afghanistan until maybe recently where many have emigrated elsewhere . They would keep to themselves etc .

In addition, rural afghans and mountainous regions where afghans been isolated rarely mix with anyone else . You would most likely find that in urban cities , which applies for the majority of the world .

[Avicenna]

I think the above guy could as a Punjabi, but I think more so from certain castes than others. Probably he is actually darker than he looks in that pic?
Third guy I think was a journalist or government spokesman or some other government official. He was posted in the past on Anthroscape.

If we dont post any dark ones, then anyone can keep writing Afghans dont have any dark ones. Also we can find more dark ones in groups or good number of them in groups as well.

If some Afghans are mixed with Indians (many could be from distant past not recently, we cant say timeframe without detailed genetic tests on such people), then many more others could have mixed in from other distant places (far back in time, not recently) as well to give the many lighter ones that you now have.

This thread is a good indicator of afghan phenotypes . The folks you posted as you can see are rare

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...to-region-POLL