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    Default Some regional German K13 averages for Vahaduo

    I compiled some averages for various German regions. I haven't enough kits for 4 subregions (Saxony, Thuringia, Brandenburg and East Prussia), so I substituted the first three simply with the Eurogenes K13 German_East Average.

    Basic dataset
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    Germany_Baden,41.06,19.6,16.94,7.45,12.63,0.71,0.1,0.15,1.12,0.31,0.82,0.27,0
    Germany_Bavaria,41.12,23.39,15.27,8.02,9.31,0.68,0.25,0.11,1.12,0.29,0.22,0.02,0
    Germany_Franconia,40.66,25.71,15.88,6.56,8.58,0.33,0.47,0.15,0,1.02,0,0.5,0.05
    Germany_Hesse,43.03,23.66,16.12,5.85,8.12,1.08,0.58,0,0.16,0.32,0.64,0.76,0.06
    Germany_LowerSaxony,48.21,21.84,9.88,5.35,4.75,0.25,1.05,0,0.42,0.16,0.35,0.8,0.07
    Germany_MecklenburgVorpommern,43.98,30.09,9.88,7.1,4.66,0.25,0.28,0.38,0.97,0.22,0.03,0.47,0
    Germany_Palatinate,42.03,21.93,17.82,5.36,10.43,0.88,0.21,0.23,0.77,0.16,0,0.45,0.15
    Germany_Rhineland,44.43,20.7,15.15,6.22,9.46,2.04,0.31,0.29,0.62,0.23,0,0.52,0
    Germany_SaxonyAnhalt,45.98,28.22,11.9,6.77,5.28,0.52,0.5,1.07,0.44,0.28,0.02,0.74,0.3
    Germany_SchleswigHolstein,51.36,27.96,9.44,3.74,3.78,1.06,1.22,0.03,0.47,0.42,0.37,0.26,0.02
    Germany_Swabia,41.42,21.77,15.95,7.66,9.78,0.7,0.16,0.14,1.1,0.3,0.55,0.19,0
    Germany_Westphalia,47.38,21.92,14.9,5.33,6.93,0.44,0.61,0.12,0.52,0.2,0.14,0.22,0
    German_Austria,36.96,28.3,15.15,8.1,8.04,1.33,0.87,0.31,0.1,0.18,0.13,0.26,0
    German_Silesia,36.48,31.7,14.19,8.28,5.59,0.62,0.15,0.34,1.02,0.54,0.07,0.3,0.03
    German_Switzerland,40.81,21.63,17.45,6.66,10.28,1.37,0.22,0.19,0.3,0.47,0.38,0.18,0.05
    German_East(Eurogenes),37.14,34.35,13.58,5.86,5.61,0.87,1.08,0.06,0.25,0.58,0.30,0.14,0.17
    Neighbouring populations included (+Lithuanian as a proxy for Baltic admix and English for German Americans)
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    Germany_Baden,41.06,19.6,16.94,7.45,12.63,0.71,0.1,0.15,1.12,0.31,0.82,0.27,0
    Germany_Bavaria,41.12,23.39,15.27,8.02,9.31,0.68,0.25,0.11,1.12,0.29,0.22,0.02,0
    Germany_Franconia,40.66,25.71,15.88,6.56,8.58,0.33,0.47,0.15,0,1.02,0,0.5,0.05
    Germany_Hesse,43.03,23.66,16.12,5.85,8.12,1.08,0.58,0,0.16,0.32,0.64,0.76,0.06
    Germany_LowerSaxony,48.21,21.84,9.88,5.35,4.75,0.25,1.05,0,0.42,0.16,0.35,0.8,0.07
    Germany_MecklenburgVorpommern,43.98,30.09,9.88,7.1,4.66,0.25,0.28,0.38,0.97,0.22,0.03,0.47,0
    Germany_Palatinate,42.03,21.93,17.82,5.36,10.43,0.88,0.21,0.23,0.77,0.16,0,0.45,0.15
    Germany_Rhineland,44.43,20.7,15.15,6.22,9.46,2.04,0.31,0.29,0.62,0.23,0,0.52,0
    Germany_SaxonyAnhalt,45.98,28.22,11.9,6.77,5.28,0.52,0.5,1.07,0.44,0.28,0.02,0.74,0.3
    Germany_SchleswigHolstein,51.36,27.96,9.44,3.74,3.78,1.06,1.22,0.03,0.47,0.42,0.37,0.26,0.02
    Germany_Swabia,41.42,21.77,15.95,7.66,9.78,0.7,0.16,0.14,1.1,0.3,0.55,0.19,0
    Germany_Westphalia,47.38,21.92,14.9,5.33,6.93,0.44,0.61,0.12,0.52,0.2,0.14,0.22,0
    German_Austria,36.96,28.3,15.15,8.1,8.04,1.33,0.87,0.31,0.1,0.18,0.13,0.26,0
    German_Silesia,36.48,31.7,14.19,8.28,5.59,0.62,0.15,0.34,1.02,0.54,0.07,0.3,0.03
    German_Switzerland,40.81,21.63,17.45,6.66,10.28,1.37,0.22,0.19,0.3,0.47,0.38,0.18,0.05
    German_East(Eurogenes),37.14,34.35,13.58,5.86,5.61,0.87,1.08,0.06,0.25,0.58,0.30,0.14,0.17
    French(Eurogenes),42.85,16.74,22.72,4.28,9.36,1.58,0.63,0.27, 0.34,0.47,0.31,0.25,0.21
    Polish(Eurogenes),30.43,45.49,10.42,5.43,3.74,1.24,0.96,0.11,0.29,0.84,0.26,0.51,0.28
    Dutch(Eurogenes),49.05,25.17,12.16,4.92,3.98,1.17,0.96,0.39,0.51,0.63,0.42,0.27,0.30
    Danish(Eurogenes),50.61,28.70,10.19,5.00,2.12,0.52,0.99,0.19,0.42,0.59,0.23,0.12,0.17
    Austrian(Eurogenes),37.21,29.87,14.58,7.23,8.23,1.56,0.78,0.07,0.16,0.12,0.11,0.07,0.00
    Belgian(Eurogenes),45.31,22.61,14.89,5.57,7.74,1.16,0.78,0.29,0.13,0.56,0.44,0.30,0.14
    Czech(Eurogenes),33.53,37.14,12.43,5.94,7,0.9,1.18,0.14,0.66,0.59,0.26,0.19,0.13
    Lithuanian(Eurogenes),28.87,53.90,7.17,3.91,1.48,0.76,1.34,0.06,0.82,0.77,0.41,0.29,0.22
    English(Eurogenes),49.92,23.49,13.55,5.65,3.78,0.70,1.08,0.14,0.26,0.55,0.41,0.22,0.19
    Basically just add any average you deem fit.

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    Target: Mm
    Distance: 3.2905% / 3.29045746
    66.3 Lithuanian(Eurogenes)
    33.7 Danish(Eurogenes)

    The closest non-Finnish group has been the Sorbs.

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    Target: Beny
    Distance: 6.1292% / 6.12917947
    73.0 Czech(Eurogenes)
    15.3 Germany_Baden
    11.7 French(Eurogenes)


    Distance to: Beny
    7.80636919 Austrian(Eurogenes)
    8.46893146 German_Austria
    8.55561804 Czech(Eurogenes)
    8.90882708 German_Silesia
    9.13423232 German_East(Eurogenes)
    11.59317903 Germany_Franconia
    13.48433536 Germany_Bavaria
    14.10150347 German_Switzerland
    14.51320433 Germany_Palatinate
    14.58432378 Germany_Swabia
    14.60129104 Germany_Hesse
    15.86295370 Germany_Baden
    15.98034418 Germany_MecklenburgVorpommern
    16.91150200 Germany_SaxonyAnhalt
    17.00800694 Polish(Eurogenes)
    17.13102741 Belgian(Eurogenes)
    17.41114586 Germany_Rhineland
    19.26881418 Germany_Westphalia
    19.95761509 French(Eurogenes)
    20.64280989 Dutch(Eurogenes)
    21.71289018 Germany_LowerSaxony
    21.79315259 English(Eurogenes)
    22.33550089 Danish(Eurogenes)
    22.74065083 Germany_SchleswigHolstein
    26.15847664 Lithuanian(Eurogenes)

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    Cool. Here is my mother's results. She is a mix of West/South German + 1/8 English. She my also be up to 1/8 Prussian but that is not confirmed.

    I eliminated Austrian and Swiss German from source to focus the results:

    Target: Mr.G_mother(german)
    Distance: 79.2643% / 0.79264290
    19.0 English(Eurogenes)
    18.4 Germany_Rhineland
    14.6 Germany_Bavaria
    12.4 Germany_Hesse
    9.8 Germany_SchleswigHolstein
    8.0 Germany_Baden
    7.2 Germany_LowerSaxony
    6.8 Germany_SaxonyAnhalt
    2.8 German_East(Eurogenes)
    1.0 Czech(Eurogenes)

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    Fantastic job! up: They should be added to Vahaduo!

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    Target: Stahlbestie
    Distance: 0.9433% / 0.94331820
    36.9 Germany_Rhineland
    17.1 Lithuanian(Eurogenes)
    15.4 Germany_SaxonyAnhalt
    13.2 Germany_MecklenburgVorpommern
    10.0 Germany_SchleswigHolstein
    7.4 Austrian(Eurogenes)

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    All these German regional averages help me tease out probably the best result I have ever gotten for K13:

    Target: Mr.G
    Distance: 153.1795% / 1.53179455
    23.6 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
    22.8 Germany_Rhineland
    20.0 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    14.2 Germany_LowerSaxony
    11.2 Germany_Hesse
    8.2 Germany_SchleswigHolstein

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    Without neighbouring populations:

    Distance to: Armatus
    4.88183367 Germany_Swabia
    4.99798960 Germany_Hesse
    5.15816828 Germany_Bavaria
    5.65686309 Germany_Palatinate
    5.82254240 Germany_Rhineland
    6.36649040 Germany_Franconia
    7.33260527 Germany_Baden
    7.66596374 Germany_Westphalia
    10.58685506 Germany_SaxonyAnhalt
    11.41451707 Germany_LowerSaxony
    12.53927430 German_Silesia
    12.72346651 Germany_MecklenburgVorpommern
    15.04362988 German_East(Eurogenes)
    15.75297432 Germany_SchleswigHolstein

    Target: Armatus
    Distance: 4.5610% / 4.56104787
    54.0 Germany_Swabia
    46.0 Germany_Hesse

    With neighbouring populations and my closest population France_NE:

    Distance to: Armatus
    4.21532917 France_north-east(Eurogenes)
    4.79704075 German_Switzerland
    4.88183367 Germany_Swabia
    4.99798960 Germany_Hesse
    5.15816828 Germany_Bavaria
    5.65686309 Germany_Palatinate
    5.82254240 Germany_Rhineland
    6.29300405 Belgian(Eurogenes)
    6.36649040 Germany_Franconia
    7.33260527 Germany_Baden
    7.66596374 Germany_Westphalia
    8.58033799 French(Eurogenes)
    10.58685506 Germany_SaxonyAnhalt
    10.61009896 English(Eurogenes)
    10.73805383 Austrian(Eurogenes)
    11.29715008 Dutch(Eurogenes)
    11.41451707 Germany_LowerSaxony
    12.53927430 German_Silesia
    12.72346651 Germany_MecklenburgVorpommern
    15.04362988 German_East(Eurogenes)
    15.27115582 Danish(Eurogenes)
    15.75297432 Germany_SchleswigHolstein
    19.11996862 Czech(Eurogenes)
    28.21925407 Polish(Eurogenes)
    37.48712179 Lithuanian(Eurogenes)

    Distance to: Armatus
    3.74182622 14.00% German_Silesia + 86.00% France_north-east(Eurogenes)
    3.94373988 13.00% Austrian(Eurogenes) + 87.00% France_north-east(Eurogenes)
    3.95181573 30.60% Germany_Bavaria + 69.40% France_north-east(Eurogenes)

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    With only German populations

    Distance to: cpal
    4.23160726 German_Austria
    5.40199037 Germany_Franconia
    6.08056741 German_Silesia
    6.73425571 Germany_Bavaria
    7.27966345 German_East(Eurogenes)
    7.33428251 Germany_MecklenburgVorpommern
    7.48566630 Germany_Hesse
    7.97100997 Germany_SaxonyAnhalt
    8.37094977 Germany_Swabia
    8.98008352 German_Switzerland
    9.45412079 Germany_Palatinate
    9.85927482 Germany_Rhineland
    11.15131831 Germany_Westphalia
    11.26986247 Germany_Baden
    12.30454794 Germany_LowerSaxony
    13.78160005 Germany_SchleswigHolstein

    Target: cpal
    Distance: 266.6585% / 2.66658543
    36.0 German_Austria
    27.4 German_East(Eurogenes)
    23.2 Germany_Rhineland
    13.4 Germany_MecklenburgVorpommern

    With neighbors

    Distance to: cpal
    3.74132330 Austrian(Eurogenes)
    4.23160726 German_Austria
    4.23160726 German_Austria
    5.40199037 Germany_Franconia
    5.40199037 Germany_Franconia
    6.08056741 German_Silesia
    6.08056741 German_Silesia
    6.73425571 Germany_Bavaria
    6.73425571 Germany_Bavaria
    7.27966345 German_East(Eurogenes)
    7.27966345 German_East(Eurogenes)
    7.33428251 Germany_MecklenburgVorpommern
    7.33428251 Germany_MecklenburgVorpommern
    7.48566630 Germany_Hesse
    7.48566630 Germany_Hesse
    7.97100997 Germany_SaxonyAnhalt
    7.97100997 Germany_SaxonyAnhalt
    8.37094977 Germany_Swabia
    8.37094977 Germany_Swabia
    8.98008352 German_Switzerland
    8.98008352 German_Switzerland
    9.04664579 Belgian(Eurogenes)
    9.45412079 Germany_Palatinate
    9.45412079 Germany_Palatinate
    9.85927482 Germany_Rhineland

    Target: cpal
    Distance: 200.8667% / 2.00866675
    46.6 Czech(Eurogenes)
    44.4 Germany_Rhineland
    7.4 Germany_LowerSaxony
    1.4 German_Austria
    0.2 Lithuanian(Eurogenes)
    =(^.^)=

    Also I don't do classifications currently, sorry.

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    With only German. My German ancestry originated from Leisnig, Saxony, Germany.

    Distance to: Celestia
    4.61930731 Germany_Westphalia
    5.21791146 Germany_LowerSaxony
    8.13612930 Germany_Rhineland
    8.22028588 Germany_SaxonyAnhalt
    8.39504020 Germany_Hesse
    8.79630604 Germany_SchleswigHolstein
    10.56340381 Germany_Swabia
    10.65602646 Germany_Bavaria
    10.80003241 Germany_Palatinate
    11.10580929 Germany_Franconia
    11.25181763 Germany_MecklenburgVorpommern
    11.43138662 German_Switzerland
    13.01710797 Germany_Baden
    14.89746287 German_Austria
    16.62726075 German_Silesia
    17.65660783 German_East(Eurogenes)

    with neighbors
    Target: Celestia
    Distance: 237.3280% / 2.37328020
    77.0 English(Eurogenes)
    12.2 French(Eurogenes)
    10.8 Germany_LowerSaxony
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