Ancient genomic time transect from the Central Asian Steppe unravels the history of the Scythians

[Leto]

But the Kazakhs have a great deal of Mongol ancestry (post 1200), don't they? I mean their Y DNA is like 60% C.

[Kaspias]

But the Kazakhs have a great deal of Mongol ancestry (post 1200), don't they? I mean their Y DNA is like 60% C.

Yes, they do. Except for their Mongolian ancestry as well as Persian-related gene flow acquired in Medieval, the rest of their ancestry(~50%) can be considered as Scythian. We do not see the same ratio in autosomal as we see in Y-DNA.

[Leto]

Yes, they do. Except for their Mongolian ancestry as well as Persian-related gene flow acquired in Medieval, the rest of their ancestry(~50%) can be considered as Scythian. We do not see the same ratio in autosomal as we see in Y-DNA.

[IMG]https://i.ibb.co/7XKV6Qh/kazaklar.png

I see. Yeah, the Kyrgyz are even more Mongoloid, sometimes 70% but their Y DNA is drastically different (50-60% R1a-Z93).

I guess that Persian-related geneflow was going mainly in the direction of modern Tajikistan/Uzbekistan though (Transoxania).

[Halgurd]

Finally they've found E-V13 in Central Asia 1700ybp. My great grandfather.

[andre]

So, this should be a good model for central asian people?

MNG_Khovsgol_BA,0.0479808,-0.3330937,0.0813422,0.0202496,-0.0764165,-0.0283612,-0.0030188,-0.0044198,0.0013844,-0.0044858,-0.0187622,-0.0040002,0.0030076,-0.0199763,0.0061181,0.0018562,-0.0031092,9.6e-06,0.0020015,0.0126599,-0.0325482,0.0075238,-0.0082481,-0.0047087,0.0002211
RUS_Sintashta_MLBA,0.125433,0.116075,0.0576869,0.0787689,0.0113968,0.0284096,0.0056636,0.0042383,-0.0176231,-0.028034,-0.0025766,0.0013488,-0.0032061,-0.0215196,0.0225975,0.0126579,-0.004885,0.0004476,-0.0002933,-0.0006753,-0.0061142,0.0023618,0.0026497,0.007033,-0.0041074
RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0162197,-0.4440402,0.0722185,-0.0511148,-0.0373912,-0.0395328,0.0034075,0.0084802,0.0064935,0.019408,-0.048595,-0.004833,-0.0030848,0.0086702,-0.0096025,-0.0133915,-0.0007825,0.0089,0.0174408,0.0100362,0.008828,-0.027729,-0.0174702,-0.00244,-0.0145795
TKM_Gonur1_BA,0.0800553,0.080227,-0.115022,0.0036607,-0.0996083,0.023148,0.0102623,-0.0063843,-0.062857,-0.039606,-0.004114,0.001099,-0.0046087,-0.0050003,0.0213533,0.014143,-0.0131687,0.002449,0.0085893,-0.0297223,0.001456,-0.0162397,-0.0067377,-0.0189987,0.0145297

Target: Saka_Tian_Shan
Distance: 1.7657% / 0.01765728
49.6 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
31.8 MNG_Khovsgol_BA
18.6 TKM_Gonur1_BA

Target: Sarmatian_RUS_Caspian_steppe
Distance: 2.4689% / 0.02468940
70.2 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
16.0 TKM_Gonur1_BA
13.8 MNG_Khovsgol_BA


Target: Kazakh
Distance: 2.6132% / 0.02613202
43.2 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
25.4 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
19.8 MNG_Khovsgol_BA
11.6 TKM_Gonur1_BA

Target: Turkmen
Distance: 3.7201% / 0.03720072
38.4 TKM_Gonur1_BA
34.6 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
27.0 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N


If this model it's valid on G25 too, early turk from nowadays Mongolia were not that homogeneous.
Medieval_Turks_MNG.JPG

[Black Wolf]

Here is a description of the Y-DNA J2a sample from the Turkic period Karakaba site.

``Mound №9 presents two pits (entrance pit and bottom pit). In the entrance pit there was an
accompanying burial of a horse. An adult man (KKB001) was buried with his head oriented east in the bottom
pit. A trepanation hole was found on the skull. The buried man lay on a mat (underlay) of barks and coniferous
branches. A waist bag made of leather was found below the elbow. A wooden bowl and a wooden dish were
found to the left of the skeleton. On the dish were found a vertebrae tail, ribs and the shoulder blades of a
horse, as well as the vertebrae of small cattle. To the right of the skeleton were placed a set of weapons: a
bow, a saber, a quiver with iron arrowheads. Under the bow several layers of large fragments of dense brown
silk were found. A bridle set and a wooden saddle, a bronze clip, a buckle with fragments of leather belt, silver
plaques with gilding, iron stirrups were placed at the feet of the buried man.``

[Dr_Maul]

Finally they've found E-V13 in Central Asia 1700ybp. My great grandfather.

Don't forget the glorious J2 they have found here
once again it seems this lineage is at the forefront of all cultures and civilizations
Ashina Clan J2 is the next update we will see (my prediction)

[Lucas]

Hungary Hun (TU46): 1670±22 14C years BP; 333-419 cal. AD (2-sigma)

Zugló burial was accidentally found on 1st December 1961 during construction work in the 14th district
of Budapest at the intersection of Egressy Road and Vezér-street. The excavation was carried out by
archaeologist Tibor Nagy. The grave contained the skeleton of a male individual, estimated 20-25 years old,
whose skull indicated a mixed ancestry presenting both Europoid and Mongoloid morphoscopic traits. An
upside-down placed horse skull was found next to his legs along with gold foil covered horse trappings and a
bronze and an iron bell with bell-clappers intentionally removed. The burial had several more artefacts,
probably garment ornaments, with gold recesses inlaid with garnets. Only an iron knife was found as a
weapon. It is possible that the rest of the weapons were buried nearby in a separate grave, which was
previously observed in other Hun burials. The nature of the burial indicated that the skeleton could belong to
a noble man from the Hun elite (67, 68).

K36

Amerindian 1,88
East_Asian 16,10
East_Central_Asian 20,68
East_Central_Euro 1,43
Eastern_Euro 3,49
Fennoscandian 2,99
Malayan 2,14
North_Sea 1,80
Oceanian 0,03
Omotic 0,14
Siberian 29,91
South_Central_Asian 9,84
South_Chinese 5,11
Volga-Ural 4,46



Distance to: Hungary_Hun
0.93562846 Kazakh_China
0.97531939 Kirghiz_China
1.02880717 Kirghiz
1.15355005 Kirghiz_Pamir
1.17786461 Kazakh
1.27964227 Altaian
1.30551113 Kalmyk
1.40418318 Tubalar
1.49489490 Mongol
1.52961559 Karakalpak



Distance: 3.7879% / 3.78794500
Target: Hungary_Hun
26.9 Shor
13.9 Nanai
12.2 Oroqen
11.8 Han_Henan
9.7 Baloch_IR
8.5 Even-Magadan
7.1 Mari
6.4 Korean
2.0 Sumatra_Batak_Toba
0.9 Khanty
0.3 Chipeweyan_Canada
0.3 Even-Sakha



Distance: 5.2512% / 5.25120588
Target: Hungary_Hun | ADC: 0.25x
44.1 Mongol_QH
36.1 Shor
10.2 Tubalar
2.8 Baloch_IR
2.4 Kom
2.2 Kirghiz_China
2.2 Oroqen


Distance: 7.1267% / 7.12665283
Target: Hungary_Hun | ADC: 0.5x
37.6 Kazakh_China
27.6 Tubalar
17.3 Mongol_QH
12.1 Kirghiz_China
5.4 Shor


K13

Components %
North_Atlantic 0,00
Baltic 14,25
West_Med 0,00
West_Asian 4,47
East_Med 0,00
Red_Sea 1,23
South_Asian 3,44
East_Asian 31,24
Siberian 39,55
Amerindian 5,31
Oceanian 0,51
Northeast_African 0,00
Sub-Saharan 0,00


Dodecad K12b
Components %
Gedrosia 7,55
Siberian 28,76
Northwest_African 0,00
Southeast_Asian 5,66
Atlantic_Med 2,60
North_European 12,58
South_Asian 3,52
East_African 0,00
Southwest_Asian 0,50
East_Asian 36,56
Caucasus 0,00
Sub_Saharan 2,28

[Kaspias]

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How many SNPs?

[Lucas]

How many SNPs?

K13

SNPs used for the calculation: 38044
SNPs in calculator: 182705
Genotype ratio: 20,82%