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    Not hinting at anything Khazar, so no triggering- but in recent years it’s often said on these forums that there is some Iranic component within Ashkenazim...there’s the Iranic R1a in some, which I believe is lacking in Sephardim (someone correct me..). I’ve also noticed that on certain calls and MTA, my mother (1/16 AJ), out of any non-European pop tends to get Iranic “hits”, and not the expected Minoan or other MENA. (Example, Androvono, and for a long time #2 closest to the presumably Srubnaya Caspian Steppes sample)...

    What are thoughts on this? I’m typing on my phone (awaiting for my laptop to be fixed), so pardon my typing...lol..

    Note: I know that most North Caucasians are not Iranic speakers, but there is a history there and that would be where AJ’s presumably picked up the component. Also, it is Ossetians who possibly share a common origin with a part of the AJ gene pool.
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    Bump? Is there real Caucasus ancestry within AJ's?
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    No I don’t think so, they are basically Levantine+Eastern/Central European. There are Caucasian Jews but they have not any Iranic admixture too and in my knowledge even less European influenced than most of their neighbors. No Caucasian people share any ancestry with Levantine or Jewish groups.

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    source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaBfoF_BiN4
    R-Z2122(R1a-M582) indo-arian line of R1a
    R-Z2122 Levit line - 99.9 % non mixed extreme closed groups of Levits
    the upper bound for the age of the M582 clade was estimated as the divergence time of the two Ashkenazi M582
    lineages and the Assyrian R1a-Z2122(xM582) sequence, yielding an estimate of 4,000 (SE 300) years

    4 lines of the R-Z2122 Levit line
    R-Z2122 in Tatars (migration from Kuban river)
    R-Z2122 East European (now in Germany - migration in Germany from Kuban river)
    R-Z2122 Khazarian -the North Caucasian connection(Kuban river area now in Karachay-Balkars in Caucasus - Adygea Krasnodar Krai Russia)
    Kabardino-Balkaria , Karachay-Cherkessia
    Ashkenasi comparing to Caucasus are moustly close to the Adygea peoples
    R-Z2122 Iranian (Persian - migration from Kuban river)
    Ashkenazi Levits Iranian 5% are from between Caspian Sea and Alborz mountains Iran
    Gilan Province - Iran
    Mazandaran Province - Iran
    the families are also known
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