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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    What will you say if I tell you that the current anti-Russian hysteria in the Western world has, actually, very little, if anything, to do with Ukraine??? You'll probably think you read something wrong, or that I am drunk or high. But, no... let me explain..

    The forces in power in the Western "democracies" (anything but real democracy!!) have been fiercely anti-Russian, and anti-Putin, long before Ukraine became a sticky point. Ukraine is just used as a convenient and willing tool in the hands of these forces.

    The media barrage of anti-Russian articles and speeches have begun shortly after Putin refused the Rothschild banking cartel's influence in Russia, and cracked down on their affiliates and oligarchs. The most notable such individual was Mikhail Khodorkovsky. Putin saw what he was doing, and nipped his criminal mafia operations in the bud. And since then, almost without stop, the global network of this criminal clan started maligning and insulting, belittling and attacking Putin, trying to degrade and criminalize his reputation with the population in the West. And they've been at it, non stop, for two decades now already. It has been so effective, that we now see that, for example, the British public sees it as "normal" and "expected" to be openly and unashamedly anti-Russian, and to openly work towards destroying Russia's economy and livelihood.

    But the roots go even much deeper than this. It has its roots in Tsarist Russia, when Jewish families have developed grudges against Russia. Deep generational grudges, that persist towards this day. That's why you will see that many, if not most, of commentators who are attacking Russia are Jewish. But not exclusively, because this feverish anti-Russian trend has infiltrated Western society, and especially media and politics, so thoroughly that British and American influencers from both conservative and liberal backgrounds are now singing the same tune, and are aggressive in their hatred for anything Russian. They do not wish anything good for Russia, they despise it when Russia prospers or succeeds at anything. This is a stain on our societies, and I really hope people will wake up and see it for what it is.

    Furthermore, Russia is the only large European country that still champions traditional values, and that doesn't openly promote LGBT etc "values". And this is yet another thing that collected a band of Russia haters in the West. But, also, thankfully, supporters among conservative minded people in the US.
    Both Ukraine and Russia are extremely Jewish. Putin regularly cozies up with Jews and Jews have become very influential under his rule. Russia certainly doesn't champion traditional values - unless you count rampant brown immigration, the unabated growth of Islam, cracking down on pro-White movements and corruption as traditionally Russian.

    The anti-Russian/anti-Putin sentiment is leftover from the Cold War red scare. It doesn't really mean anything, but it means the world to normies who are capable of understanding basic "us vs them" narratives.

    One of the biggest problems facing the West today is that we are conquered countries without having been defeated militarily. This seems to have caused a kind of cognitive dissonance where our people, with the misplaced attitude of conquerors, advocate for the continued conquest of ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0x730x650x770x65 View Post
    Both Ukraine and Russia are extremely Jewish. Putin regularly cozies up with Jews and Jews have become very influential under his rule. Russia certainly doesn't champion traditional values - unless you count rampant brown immigration, the unabated growth of Islam, cracking down on pro-White movements and corruption as traditionally Russian.

    The anti-Russian/anti-Putin sentiment is leftover from the Cold War red scare. It doesn't really mean anything, but it means the world to normies who are capable of understanding basic "us vs them" narratives.
    A new low IQ poster.

    Putin supports Assad against Israel's interests. That's very Jewish of him...

    WNs have this bizarre take that Putin is a Zionist lap dog because he sometimes does things that favor them except he also does things that don't favor them, or in other words, he acts in his own interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    A new low IQ poster.

    Putin supports Assad against Israel's interests. That's very Jewish of him...

    WNs have this bizarre take that Putin is a Zionist lap dog because he sometimes does things that favor them except he also does things that don't favor them, or in other words, he acts in his own interests.


    For me, the moment someone acts in a selfish manner against their own race, even situationally in the case of him, that makes him anti-white. Supporting Jews "only sometimes" is already too much. Supporting Assad against Israel when it is in Putin's own interests does not come close to making up for it. I like that Putin's actions are screwing with the current World Order, and I don't like Ukraine's Jewish leader either but I don't support white-on-white wars. Both sides are tainted with Jews.
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    They champion traditional values like beating women (there are still Russian females who firmly believe that if their husband beats them then it's a sign of his love, I wish I was making it up) - while still executing steps that most other European countries have done to combat it, they also approve medieval superstitions galore and harassing LGBT minority?

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    I'm R1a and I'm not Russian.
    Is your Lithuanian side coming from your paternal grandpa? I suspect so because R1a is very common among Lithuanians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atosad View Post
    in Russia there is one terrible sin from the point of view of the West - its huge reserves of resources, which the West, with strong power (some Russian emperors, all general secretaries of the USSR, Putin), cannot be controlled as easily as under weaker rulers (Nikolai-II, Yeltsin..)
    And every time a strong leader appears in Russia, "suddenly" it turns out that she is a whole bunch of sins. Which can be eliminated in only one way - a change of power to a submissive weakling, who will allow Russia to be robbed again.
    Therefore, claims of aggression, lack of freedoms, oppression of minorities, and so on are simply ridiculous - under Yeltsin, tanks shot at the Russian parliament, the people lived like in the Stone Age, crime and anarchy reigned...But it is this Russia that is now remembered in the West as the standard of a "free state" "
    Therefore, if Russia wants not just to be, but simply to survive, it is still destined to be the subject of attacks and condemnation. You can call it paranoia, but it's true.
    You do realise there are other ways to achieve certain internal goals without turning your country into a 'chekist' state rendering a regime? Russian people are already so disaccustomed from having a real freedom by their own history that they have no idea about it.

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    (1) Whatever the rhetoric of Putin and certain other Russian nationalists and conservatives, Russia's rates of divorce, abortion, alcoholism, suicide and other social problems are even worse than in most Western countries. The extraordinarily poor health of the nation is one reason why its population has systematically declined since the break-up of the USSR, along with its very low birth rate. (2) This being said, it is true that having Russia as a permanent enemy brings together elements of both Left and Right. In the case of the Left, they dislike Russia because of its putative social conservatism-cum-authoritarianism (like I said, the reality is in many ways a totally different matter, but that is beside the point). Also, the fact it is a White nation rather than a Black or Brown nation that is less than fully pro-LGBT makes it all the more reprehensible in their eyes. In the case of the Right, having Russia as an enemy is a crappy way to unite their nations through a faux sense of patriotism, militarism, finger-pointing and superiority complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haimerich View Post
    For me, the moment someone acts in a selfish manner against their own race, even situationally in the case of him, that makes him anti-white. Supporting Jews "only sometimes" is already too much. Supporting Assad against Israel when it is in Putin's own interests does not come close to making up for it. I like that Putin's actions are screwing with the current World Order, and I don't like Ukraine's Jewish leader either but I don't support white-on-white wars. Both sides are tainted with Jews.
    I agree, your most important worldly task is the preservation of your race, your most important unworldly task is to follow in the footsteps of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, these are the main tenants of Christian Nationalism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    (1) Whatever the rhetoric of Putin and certain other Russian nationalists and conservatives, Russia's rates of divorce, abortion, alcoholism, suicide and other social problems are even worse than in most Western countries. The extraordinarily poor health of the nation is one reason why its population has systematically declined since the break-up of the USSR, along with its very low birth rate.
    Agree, however despite the unsatisfactory numbers they did improve in some of those demographic areas (particularly from the 2000-2014 period). The 1990-2000 period was basically a large Great Depression.

    Now with the chaos and increased tensions, we will see if it will make or break him in the Russian populations eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoon View Post
    Agree, however despite the unsatisfactory numbers they did improve in some of those demographic areas (particularly from the 2000-2014 period). The 1990-2000 period was basically a large Great Depression.

    Now with the chaos and increased tensions, we will see if it will make or break him in the Russian populations eyes.
    That was just more non-white migration from Central Asia. The White Russian population goes down by about a million each year.

    „The results of the analysis of statistical data on the population of Russia provide rich food for thought.

    The official consultant from the power department of the Russian Federation shared some very interesting statistics.

    The total population of Russia, according to the latest information, is, according to various estimates, less than 132,000,000 people. Of these, 74% (97.680.000) live in cities and urban-type settlements, and: in Moscow - 10.969.000, in the Moscow region - 7.900.000, in St. Petersburg - 6.897.000, in the Leningrad region - 3.350.000 .

    The national and ethnic composition of Moscow is as follows:

    Russians - 31%
    Azerbaijanis - 14%
    Tatars, Bashkirs, Chuvashs - 10%
    Ukrainians - 8%
    Armenians - 5%
    Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz - 5%
    Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese - 5%
    Chechens, Dagestanis, Ingush - 4%
    Belarusians - 3%
    Georgians - 3%
    Moldovans - 3%
    gypsies - 3%
    Jews - 2%
    Other nations - 4%

    More than 11 million people live in Moscow, of which Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, all together - 4.620.000. In the capital of the Russian State, Ukrainians, Belarusians and Russians are a national minority!

    In Russia, more than 20,000,000 people profess Islam and officially consider themselves Muslims, while true Orthodox - no more than 4.5%, which is no more than 6 million people. Over the past 15 years, the number of Muslims in Russia has increased by 40%.

    There are more Azerbaijanis living in Russia than in Baku, and there are more Tatars in Moscow than in Kazan.

    By the middle of the century, at least every fourth Russian will be a Muslim.

    According to representatives of the National Organization of Russian Muslims, at least three Russians convert to Islam every Friday in St. Petersburg. The vast majority of them are students.“

    https://asiarussia.ru/news/7667/

    These stats are from 2015. RF ���� call «power departament» (Siloviki) those who work at GRU, FSB, SVR, FSO, Drug Control, basically feds, police etc. They collect info on external and internal migration between or in federative republic and actual ethnicity of the people, not only what they call themselves during census. There's no federative republic for «ethnic» russians, only for other nations or ethnicities, so as a result of that there's many asiatic or middle-east looking people calling themselves «russians», unfortunately.
    Also on wikipedia page about Moscow you will only find stats from 2010 census and it is noted there „excluding migrant workers and illegal immigrants“.

    Rich food for thought, indeed.
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