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  • Spain

    270 19.08%
  • Portugal

    249 17.60%
  • France

    54 3.82%
  • Italy

    402 28.41%
  • Sicily

    911 64.38%
  • Greece

    824 58.23%
  • Bulgaria

    269 19.01%
  • Serbia

    144 10.18%
  • Romania

    232 16.40%
  • Albania

    342 24.17%
  • Macedonia

    206 14.56%
  • Ukraine

    43 3.04%
  • Malta

    721 50.95%
  • Hungary

    56 3.96%
  • Other (specify)

    201 14.20%
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Thread: Assyrians; Where can they pass physically in Europe? (Multiple choice)

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    I don't know where they can fit BUT I do know where they usually take shelter in Europe. Sweden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dralos View Post
    i voted greece,malta and sicily bcs i have seen many of these people in RL and i think they resemble these assyrians not totally but still alot,for the greeks i think it's bcs of the island greeks and anatolian greeks who came to greece after the exchange
    sicily and malta bcs of huge arabic influences
    I agree with all of this here.

    I too think they could fit into Turkey, Cyprus, Greece, Sicily and Malta.

    I seen some with these features and vice versa.

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    Greece, Sicily, Malta, Bulgaria, & Albania.

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    Some of them look a bit armenoid, I don´t know if the can fit in any european country

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    Quote Originally Posted by GonzaloNMF View Post
    Some of them look a bit armenoid, I don´t know if the can fit in any european country
    There's actually a classification I have sometimes seen called "Assyrid", maybe they fit under that.

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    I thinks Assyrians can pass easily for peoples from the eastern mediterreanian islands, but also for Greece. Moreover, some of their faces can be easily recognized in some Jewish persons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oghurkhan View Post
    Moreover, some of their faces can be easily recognized in some Jewish persons.
    Some Assyrian-Jewish overlap, in my opinion:










    As for Mizrahim. I think my grandfather (bottom) resembled the Iraqi Jewish actor, Sasson Gabai (Rambo III, The Band's Visit) a bit.



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    Don't the Mizharim cluster with Assyrians and have almost the same genome to large extent. Iraqi Jews are probably the Assyrians closest relatives, after Mandeans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CircassianWine View Post
    Don't the Mizharim cluster with Assyrians and have almost the same genome to large extent. Iraqi Jews are probably the Assyrians closest relatives, after Mandeans.
    From David's recent Eurogenes v2 MDS run:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Transhumanist View Post
    From David's recent Eurogenes v2 MDS run:

    So it does seem this to be the case that Iraqi Jews, Assyrians, and Mandeans same to share a similar substrate and probably are of Mesopotamian origins. What is interesting that Iraqi Baghdad seem to push more into the Assyrian cluster, well the Iraqi Arab South seems to drift toward Arabia. It would have been interesting to see more samples from the North since this where the remains of the Mesopotamians were concentrated, yet it seems that Central and Southern Iraq were forever changed by the Arabian impact most of which occurred in the 15th century to the 19th century, and it was largely due to the vaccum created by the Mongol and later Timurid invasions that saw large number of people being massacred and outright extreminated. It's actually quite striking how the Mandeans and Iraqi Arabs differ from one another despite having lived on the same land for generation. The Marsh Arabs seem to for example just a settled Bedouin population and cluster with Arabian population based on their genome. However Northern Iraqi Arabs often resemble the Assyrians and it would be interesting to see their genome, this of course is not refering to the Bedouin tribes like the Shammar who were settled by the British or the recent migrant Rawallah.

    So Mesopotamian cluster appears and so does an Arabian in Iraq, and this of course not including the Turks who appear to be in the Iranic cluster, but then geography and migration has helped in this.
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