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    Our source reports that the General Staff of Ukraine reported to the Office of the President that the whole game of Russians around the Kherson case could be a tactic to lure the enemy into a "trap".

    The source indicates that such a possibility exists. The latest attempts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to make a breakthrough in this area have not yet been successful, and it is risky to draw up large reserves and forces, since the enemy can deliver massive missile strikes, which will lead to a catastrophe in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    On the other hand, Zelensky continues to be pressured by the lobby of the Democratic party of the USA, forcing him to go to Kherson with all his might, threatening that they will stop military and financial assistance.

    The situation is further complicated by internal problems in Ukraine related to the growing energy crisis.

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    Based Russia celebrating alliance with the west. (:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    Based Russia celebrating alliance with the west. (:
    What's wrong with it? There were lots of alliances during history. This exact war and battle is a part of history, which made Greek state autonomous. Russia supported Greek freedom movement long before this, most of Greek revolutionars were living in asylum, based or educated in Russia. That's concious Russian strategy.

    My Greek line ancestors (by maternal grandmother) were refugees from Mainland Greece in Odessa during Greek revolution.

    Turkey should thank the West that "Greek project" started by Catherine the Great was never completed, they did everything to save Turkey lots of times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    What's wrong with it?
    Nothing? I called it based for the reason that you explained, i dont see any problem with being based.

    However, this is also reason why you cant ask relations beyond "transactional" level with us. If any Turk has sympathy with Russia, this is the proof that hes an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    However, this is also reason why you cant ask relations beyond "transactional" level with us. If any Turk has sympathy with Russia, this is the proof that hes an idiot.
    I see nothing wrong in pragmatical alliances, which have nothing to do with sympathies. On personal level, as I become older I prefer to have emotional attitude towards exact persons, not huge groups of people, I don't have anything against some random Turk, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    I see nothing wrong in pragmatical alliances, which have nothing to do with sympathies.
    Yeah, i also see no problem with transactional relationship going on.

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    Russian soldiers have shot dead a Ukrainian musician in his home after he refused to take part in a concert in occupied Kherson, according to the culture ministry in Kyiv.

    Conductor Yuriy Kerpatenko declined to take part in a concert “intended by the occupiers to demonstrate the so-called ‘improvement of peaceful life’ in Kherson”, the ministry said in a statement on its Facebook page.

    improvement of peaceful life....


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...herson-concert
    https://operawire.com/russians-kill-...te-in-concert/

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    Why should anyone trust this? That's targeted on those like you. You know, it sounds so funny and absurd for a Russian, I mean who cares about some conductor accepting or refusing role. There's much less of such "trust me" statements from Russian side, but I generally pass them because you cannot check if it's true or not.

    Any civilian from any side, dead from any reason (shelling, explosions, random bullet) may be used for vulgar propaganda, like "Who was the dead? Ah, a conductor. You have to write an articile about Ukrainian patriotic conductor brutally killed by Russian barbarians for rejecting them".

    Just put yourself some questions, for example, what's the use for Russians to kill him? In a city which get constantly shelled all over by Ukrainian army, just like it happens in majority of "Russian occupied" cities where locals and their property constantly suffer from Ukrainian liberation shellings. Admit you're totally blackouted from information on casualties and deaths of civilians caused on purpose by Ukrainian army on territories they lost. For you, that's all non-existant facts by Russian propaganda, because there's nothing about it in the Guardian.

    I mean those simple primitive questions which will prove that some part of your brain is still working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post

    Just put yourself some questions, for example, what's the use for Russians to kill him?
    What the use for russians to castrate and kill an ukrainian prisonner of war or rape a baby? And even more ask yourself why recording thoses purely cruel acts?



    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    In a city which get constantly shelled all over by Ukrainian army, just like it happens in majority of "Russian occupied" cities where locals and their property constantly suffer from Ukrainian liberation shellings. Admit you're totally blackouted from information on casualties and deaths of civilians caused on purpose by Ukrainian army on territories they lost. For you, that's all non-existant facts by Russian propaganda, because there's nothing about it in the Guardian.

    I mean those simple primitive questions which will prove that some part of your brain is still working.
    I just don't beleived they are so much casuality and not on purpose from ukrainians side. They have better intel about the russian force positions to make more efficience shoot.
    Contrary to russians who rely sometimes on soviet equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    ..or rape a baby?
    There's no evidence such things happened. There was a huge hoax after Kiev part of campaign by Ukrainian ombudsman Liudmila Denisova, she was fired short after and her bullshit normally confirmed to be lies. About raped kids, grandmas and dogs. Your media reported this bs, but never denied and it was never planned to, target audience like you received this info and that's enough. European sheeps have a picture of systematical atrocities made by Russian soldiers made on purpose or even by order. I'm sure you believe that Russian soldiers receive Viagra for raping Ukrainian women (and dogs for sure, then they kill dogs and eat them as they have no food) because you won't be Jehan if you didn't believe it.
    Last edited by Victor; 10-21-2022 at 06:21 PM.

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