Balt like people in antique southern Panonnia

[Jana]

idk if samples are carbon-dated but we have some extreme NE European genetic profiles from eastern Croatia and northern Serbia.
which ethnic groups they belonged too? They are extremely northern.

could these be proto Slavs? Or? Hard to imagine any Balts migrated down there, but...they cluster like modern Balts and Baltic-like Russians


Distance to: HRV_Osijek:R3657___AD_280
0.02842084 Russian_Pskov
0.03132949 Lithuanian_VA
0.03203686 Russian_Tver
0.03301761 Lithuanian_PA
0.03384526 Estonian
0.03430717 Lithuanian_RA
0.03539247 Russian_Kursk
0.03581244 Russian_Yaroslavl
0.03630268 Russian_Ryazan
0.03634937 Lithuanian_SZ


Distance to: SRB_Viminacium:R6759___AD_150
0.03157195 Latvian
0.03182402 Lithuanian_SZ
0.03627177 Lithuanian_RA
0.03687694 Lithuanian_PZ
0.04131605 Lithuanian_VZ
0.04255829 Lithuanian_VA
0.04363796 Estonian
0.04517937 Russian_Pskov
0.04666200 Lithuanian_PA
0.05328828 Belarusian


Distance to: SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146
0.03203751 Lithuanian_VA
0.03423692 Lithuanian_PA
0.03571393 Lithuanian_RA
0.03604847 Russian_Pskov
0.03857698 Lithuanian_SZ
0.03931255 Estonian
0.04093936 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.04111409 Russian_Kaluga
0.04130789 Latvian
0.04154476 Russian_Tver

their coords here:

HRV_Osijek:R3657___AD_280,0.126344,0.11577,0.078441,0.077197,0.036314,0.031794,0.00846,0.018922,-0.006545,-0.034625,0.000162,-0.013788,0.015015,0.015276,-0.007057,0.013922,0.021253,-0.005701,0.001508,0.009004,-0.004991,-0.004822,0.000739,-0.005904,0.004191
SRB_Viminacium:R6759___AD_150,0.124067,0.119832,0.09164,0.101422,0.047701,0.038208,0.01034,0.017768,0.001023,-0.039363,-0.004547,-0.019033,0.038057,0.03592,-0.019137,0.003447,0.014994,-0.007095,-0.00088,0.003126,-0.007736,-0.005935,0.003328,-0.007109,-0.002634
SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146,0.136588,0.126941,0.090132,0.072675,0.044624,0.030678,0.005405,0.014999,-0.005931,-0.025695,-0.004709,-0.008992,0.016055,0.014175,-0.013572,0.014717,0.026598,-0.004814,-0.001383,0.007379,0.00025,-0.008779,0.002095,-0.005784,-0.000958

[Jana]

with K13 converted averages


Distance to: HRV_Osijek:R3657___AD_280

0.03786215 Russian_Tver-Yaroslavl
0.03884571 Russian_Ryazan
0.03914726 Russian_Pskov
0.04134088 Belarusian_Minsk
0.04174980 Russian_Southwest
0.04221890 Lithuanian_Aukštaitija
0.04372826 Russian_Smolensk
0.04429368 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
0.04461209 Estonian
0.04475842 Lithuanian_Žemaitija


Distance to: SRB_Viminacium:R6759___AD_150

0.05137090 Latvian
0.05406409 Lithuanian_Žemaitija
0.05639789 Russian_Pskov
0.05692230 Lithuanian_Aukštaitija
0.06086413 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
0.06110466 Estonian
0.06326707 Russian_Tver-Yaroslavl
0.06407308 Belarusian_Minsk
0.06768661 Russian_Smolensk
0.06866155 Russian_Ryazan

Distance to: SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146

0.04055798 Russian_Pskov
0.04095903 Belarusian_Minsk
0.04118757 Lithuanian_Aukštaitija
0.04185239 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
0.04246390 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
0.04303851 Russian_Smolensk
0.04341625 Lithuanian_Žemaitija
0.04379295 Polish_Kujavia
0.04414358 Polish_Mazovia
0.04415367 Russian_Tver-Yaroslavl

[knez01]

I score very high Baltic on all Eurogenes calculators, at least for an southern shifted Dalmatian, it makes sense there are more Baltic shifted Slavs that migrated here before Croatians. Since I've seen a lot of Croatians in general have a very high variation of Baltic, from 20 to 40+.

[MandM]

Wouldent be impossible thate slavs or other peolpe went there, could have been an opportunity for a better life maby,
Remeber an geneoligist said that people moved around more then we think

[Jana]

To me this strongly implies early Slavs were Baltic-like genetically in their undiluted form. Ukrainians are not pure Slavs at all.
this fits with Baltic like genomes in medieval southern Moravia too.

And also, this implies theory that Baltic and Slavic did not separate at same time from common Balto-Slavic, but that Slavic is just an southern offshot of Baltic and Balts are our fathers so to say, not siblings.
they are the original form, Slavs are just their mutated offspring.

This is huge!!! And ofc it implies modern south Slavs and even Ukrainians or west Slavs for eg. are less Slavic than we tought.

[Jana]

If Slavs were Baltic like, than majority of south Slavs is less than half Slavic and some like Macedonians have very modest Slavic input. This would fit better with historical/archeological expectations tbh.

[Atlantic Reptilian]

Corded ware

[Jana]

Corded ware

these are not Corded Ware samples, they are thousands of years younger than that.

[Atlantic Reptilian]

To me this strongly implies early Slavs were Baltic-like genetically in their undiluted form. Ukrainians are not pure Slavs at all.
this fits with Baltic like genomes in medieval southern Moravia too.

And also, this implies theory that Baltic and Slavic did not separate at same time from common Balto-Slavic, but that Slavic is just an southern offshot of Baltic and Balts are our fathers so to say, not siblings.
they are the original form, Slavs are just their mutated offspring.

This is huge!!! And ofc it implies modern south Slavs and even Ukrainians or west Slavs for eg. are less Slavic than we tought.

Corded Ware are proto-Slavic. Slavs are a mix of proto-Slavs (corded ware) and balts (and sometimes meds).

[Jana]

Corded Ware are proto-Slavic. Slavs are a mix of proto-Slavs (corded ware) and balts (and sometimes meds).

Proto Slavs appear thousands of years after Corded Ware. Just don't post retarded comments if you have no clue about genetics.