How European is Turkey?

[Methuselah]

According to myths and legends yeah, genetics, not so much

So someone tested ancient Varyangian?

[Duke]

So someone tested ancient Varyangian?

yes, Rus Princes were tested, and they were close to modern, but even closer to old Croatians tested.

Croats also have same old Slavic designation Bijelohrvati=> Belarus, white designating west

And Croats dont plot with Swedes, it was 19. century German Romanticists rewrite of history, proclaiming everything as germanic, which later on was fuel for Hitlers aspirations

[Methuselah]

yes, Rus Princes were tested, and they were close to modern, but even closer to old Croatians tested.

Croats also have same old Slavic designation Bijelohrvati=> Belarus, white designating west

And Croats dont plot with Swedes, it was 19. century German Romanticists rewrite of history, proclaiming everything as germanic, which later on was fuel for Hitlers aspirations

Taken from Wikipedia:

Having settled Aldeigja (Ladoga) in the 750s, Norse colonists played an important role in the early ethnogenesis of the Rus' people and in the formation of the Rus' Khaganate. The Varangians (Varyags, in Old East Slavic) are first mentioned by the Primary Chronicle as having exacted tribute from the Slavic and Finnic tribes in 859. It was the time of rapid expansion of the Vikings in Northern Europe; England began to pay Danegeld in 859, and the Curonians of Grobin faced an invasion by the Swedes at about the same date.

It has been argued that the word Varangian, in its many forms, does not appear in primary sources until the eleventh century (though it does appear frequently in later sources describing earlier periods). This suggests that the term Rus' was used broadly to denote Scandinavians until it became too firmly associated with the subsequent elite of Kievan Rus who assimilated Slavic culture. At that point, the new term Varangian was increasingly preferred to name Scandinavians, probably mostly from what is now Sweden,[24] plying the river routes between the Baltic and the Black and Caspian Seas.[25]

Due largely to geographic considerations, it is often argued that most of the Varangians who traveled and settled in the lands of eastern Baltic, modern Russia and lands to the south came from the area of modern Sweden.

Yes and some of the Rus people had I haplogroups. Not your typical Slavic haplgroup right? Everything just points to Norse origin of Varangians who were a small group of people.

[Dick]

BaCKwRD BlakAN Greece, the cradle of western civilization. The epitome of Indo-European and white supremacy. The Romans jerked off to the Greeks, the germanics and Anglo saxons jerked off to the Romans which was the same as jerking off to the Ancient Greeks, Even the white supremacist masonic organization KKK jerked off to the ancient Greeks. The elites name their fake coronaviruses after The Greek alphabet. College sororities in the US fap to Zeus, NASA names their rockets after Greek Gods. With the Artemis mission, Nasa will land the first woman, nigger and tranny on the moon.


If your profile dosnt look like this then you’re a mixed race mischling and not white.

[Duke]

Taken from Wikipedia:

Having settled Aldeigja (Ladoga) in the 750s, Norse colonists played an important role in the early ethnogenesis of the Rus' people and in the formation of the Rus' Khaganate. The Varangians (Varyags, in Old East Slavic) are first mentioned by the Primary Chronicle as having exacted tribute from the Slavic and Finnic tribes in 859. It was the time of rapid expansion of the Vikings in Northern Europe; England began to pay Danegeld in 859, and the Curonians of Grobin faced an invasion by the Swedes at about the same date.

It has been argued that the word Varangian, in its many forms, does not appear in primary sources until the eleventh century (though it does appear frequently in later sources describing earlier periods). This suggests that the term Rus' was used broadly to denote Scandinavians until it became too firmly associated with the subsequent elite of Kievan Rus who assimilated Slavic culture. At that point, the new term Varangian was increasingly preferred to name Scandinavians, probably mostly from what is now Sweden,[24] plying the river routes between the Baltic and the Black and Caspian Seas.[25]

Due largely to geographic considerations, it is often argued that most of the Varangians who traveled and settled in the lands of eastern Baltic, modern Russia and lands to the south came from the area of modern Sweden.

Yes and some of the Rus people had I haplogroups. Not your typical Slavic haplgroup right? Everything just points to Norse origin of Varangians who were a small group of people.

you know how easy is to recognise this is fake, written language in 9th century NE europe did not exist.

[Incal]

The fact turks can not adapt to Germany even after 3 generations just proves they are totally alien to Europe.

[Methuselah]

you know how easy is to recognise this is fake, written language in 9th century NE europe did not exist.

Yes, but none said the text was produced in 700 or something. People are claiming it happened in 750's.

This topic was discussed here. It's not simple as pimple but one good theory is Scando origin with Scando Finnish roots.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...urik-confirmed

[Dragoon]

Middle East is not traditionally Asian like China or Japan. Asian part of Turkey is more similar to Morocco than to Korea or Vietnam.

For this reason North Africa and the Middle East are traditionally grouped as MENA region.

You misuse the word traditional because in fact the location of Turkey was the original Asia(ns) (pre Christian times; and before the Ottoman/Turks moved in). And Greece was the original West and Europe.

Dividing China and Japan into Far East is quite modern, and the label MENA is very recent.

Im talking mostly geography. Turkey is partly in Europe, mostly in Asia today.

Now race and culture is something else.

[Dragoon]

Why most people do not label Turkey as Europe:

1)religion 2)culture 3)origins of Turkics/race 4)location mostly outside Europe

Some people might argue Turanids are part of Caucasoid but that is questionable.

And genetically Turks are (according to one study): 80% Middle East/Mediterranean/European and 20% Central Asian/East Asian.

[Occiput in Starlight]

Greeks started Western philosophy on the western coast of Anatolia (Pre-Socratic philosophy).

- Wiki